I have a piece up at Good Men Project covering the Southern Poverty Law Center’s attack on the Manosphere. In other news, whorefinder has been placed on suicide watch.
The SPLC published a quarterly Intelligence Report in which it, in three separate articles, characterizes many Manosphere blogs and websites as hate groups or extremists. At the GMP piece:
- Roosh, whose site was mentioned in the SPLC’s report, is quoted and displays the expected fuck ‘em flare. The fact that Roosh’s site was included on the list sort of shows that the SPLC’s hate classification algorithm is flawed. Roosh argues that his and sites like Heartiste are concerned with men improving themselves which leads to more orgasms for a women.
- Alek Novy has already popped up in the comments sections at GMP in order to discredit Roosh and Game. The value of Game – though we can argue that it isn’t exactly ethical or virtuous – is that it is diametrically opposed to violence against women. Game and seduction try to cure men of “one-itis”, and “one-itis” is the most common cause of violence against women. Feminists don’t like Game, though, and they aren’t overjoyed by this very positive byproduct of Game because men who turn against “one-itis” aren’t doing it for what feminists would consider the right reasons. Feminists want men to not harm women because they so value women; gamers want men to not harm women because they so value themselves.
- The SPLC calls sites like In Mala Fide, Roosh, A Voice for Men, and The Spearhead “misogyny” sites. Just accepting that characterization for the sake of argument, Morris Dees, the group’s founder, has exhibited more misogyny in his lifetime than any of the proprietors of those blogs and probably far more than 99% of the commenters at those blogs. Though I didn’t cite him, blogger Robert Lindsay has written in the past about Dees’ depravity as elucidated in Dees’ divorce documents. I called SPLC and spoke to a young woman in the public relations office that said she couldn’t refer me to anyone inside the office to address my question about the validity of the divorce documents, nor did the organization call me back, despite the woman telling me they would. Dees is a sham and his organization is the civil rights version of those late night BET commercials peddling green prayer cloths. It’s about marketing fear and increasing the scope of the so-called mission. It’s only for this reason that the SPLC – which does have influence with leftists and law enforcement – has loosened their definition of hate groups and extremists to include the Manosphere. The KKK is dead so the group has had to gin up fear somehow.
- The Manosphere is good for men in that it helps them blow off steam. Ubiquitous porn is correlated with fewer sex crimes against women; a place for a man to express some of his frustrations about sex or feminism or misandry is better than a man who is relegated only to the forum in his head.
- The groups that SPLC typically confronts are organized. The KKK, neo-Nazis, the Nation of Islam – all of them have meetings and P.O. Boxes and uniforms and hierarchies. The Manosphere has none of those things. There might be some hate within the Manosphere, but there is no organization and no will to commit violence.
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Of course, as you know, SPLC has no “hate classification algorithm”:
http://rkeefe57.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/the-splcs-definition-of-hate-group/
SPLC is one of the many contemporary examples of the institutionalization of Marcuse’s doctrine of “repressive tolerance.” If the epithet “McCarthyism” was about something other than “Who? Whom?” the SPLC would be the purest example of that phenomenon.
Well, whorefinder does have a point. The GMP crew really does look like commie vegan creampuffs, and I kind of doubt they are a net positive for men or society in what they’re trying to accomplish.
I almost thought whorefinder’s blog post was satire.
lol @ Haiku Homo
Well, yeah. It’s “interesting” how the MRM is only now covering the SPLC’s activities. Racists have been dealing with them for decades. Calamity has struck and now the MRM are haters.
I see the GMP throws WN to the wolves again, insulting the KKK and neo nazis. They will learn how much pity the mexican and black MRAs have for whites.
[Chuck: GMP didn't throw the WN's to the wolves. That was me. *I* threw them to the wolves, and I was being generous. Fuck KKK and neo-Nazis. Their starting principle is the hatred of other races, full stop. If you want to go to war with people of other races then I wonder why you haven't made the first move, Ryu.]
Let the SPLC slip into irrelevance with this one, it will be basically publicity for the manosphere; though I do hope that Roosh takes some precaution, he is very exposed.
Laird Wilcox’s monograph</a on assorted anti-racist watchdog groups and The Social Contract Press' special report issue on the SPLC are both worth reading.
Many thanks for posting this. We just finally announced this information on the Reddit site. A lot of guys were freaked at first since it sounded bad. Now it’s time to go around the web of anti-men websites that were basking in this news, to call them out for what they are, bigots.
Thanks again man!
“Roosh argues that his and sites like Heartiste are concerned with men improving themselves”
And that is threatening to some people.
Good Men Project strikes me as yet another shitty venue for liberals. But I don’t object to more sensible people writing there. What’s the point of that? Widespread acceptance of men’s rights and human biodiversity issues won’t occur if they intentionally refuse to write in more public venues about their ideas.
Yet another indication that the Race Card is maxed out!
that manboobz guy is a bigot…
http://toysoldier.wordpress.com/2012/03/10/monkey-see-monkey-do/
it’s pretty clear there Is a need for Men’s Rights, I don’t quite think Paul Elam and Bernie Chapin are the guys who should lead it, that’s all…
and F*ck the KKK and Neo Nazi’s. Glad to say that RYU probably has more in common w/ Manboobz than me, I’m not his ally. He is not my “brother.”
AlekNovy is a pretty sick fuck. He will singlehandedly ruin Paul Elam’s reputation.
So let me get this straight – AlekNovy is already working hard to tarnish Game and Roosh, yet is unperturbed by the fact that manosphere blogs (including Paul Elam’s) have been written up by the SPLC just the day before?
That shows us his priorities. Why does anyone think he is an MRA?
Why does anyone give two shits about Alek Novy? He’s a loud-mouthed quack when it comes to game and as far as I’ve been able to tell he only hates on game in order to spread his own style of game similar to Paul’s minimalist style of game (ie dress nice and take a shower). In other words he’s a hypocrite.
you may scoff at this but you fail to realize just how bad this can realy be… ill try to gather some info and facts to prove my point . Atm im short of time
CRUDD changes disguises…
then wisely cloaks
a lack of factual response
with insults
It’s pretty mature for a girl
Go all in: change your name to C.RAPP.
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