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1.  The New Jersey shooter is identified as Terence Tyler, an ex-Marine (I saw current Marines online getting angry about the term “ex-Marine”; “once a Marine, always a Marine”; this is why people call you jarheads).  Looking for reasons for this killing, the two victims are young white people though I doubt that race has anything to do with the shooting.  Looking at Tyler’s twitter account, he doesn’t seem to express any racial hostility.  He seems to have hated being a Marine, though his complaints don’t seem too far from what we’d expect.  He writes a lot about women, working out, and his diet.  This might be a case of beta rage.  The shooting might have been some sort of lover’s triangle, but the young man that was killed by Tyler has clues on Facebook that he might have been gay.  Something else noteworthy though, the man killed by Tyler wrote on Facebook that his nickname was “Nigga Beatdown” but there are no other clues to indicate that he was overtly racist.

2.  NYT piece on the similarities between 1992 and 2012.

3.  George H. Smith on Herbert Spencer’s criticism of universal suffrage and the end results of democracy.

Spencer maintained that extending the franchise would be desirable only if it were accompanied by a decrease in the powers of government. Only if the dangerous weapon of governmental power were placed beyond the reach of everyone could we be reasonably certain that no group or class would use political power to exploit others.

4.  A liberal rag is surprised to learn that libertarian David Koch is not opposed to gay marriage and is in favor of cutting the defense budget.

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29 Responses to Stuff

  1. Scott 08/31/2012 at 2:20 pm

    Liberals really are clueless to what Libertarians are. The article isn’t terrible but the comments make my eyes bleed.

  2. anti-racist 08/31/2012 at 2:25 pm

    well at leasst he did not kill any People of Color

    methinks that the “victims” hurled racial epithets his way

    in a sense they had it coming

    this seems like an Omar Thirnton type situation

    Let’s face it: There will never be racial harmony in America. There are too many corrupt white perpetrators of racism in America where they find it necessary and fun to degrade Blacks in order to feel better about their evil asses.

    This country is on the road to end on a divisive-destructive racial note. It can’t be otherwise. Racism in America is a disease that cannot be resolved….Period.

  3. C.R. 08/31/2012 at 2:26 pm

    he killed himself idiot. so he did kill a POC. OnePOC

  4. Phillyastro 08/31/2012 at 2:28 pm

    The color of trolls in my Monster Manual is green anti-racist. OT, isn’t “Louie” supposed to be funny? What the hell…once a program about a comedian goes all “Meta”, it’s over.

  5. PA 08/31/2012 at 2:29 pm

    “the two victims are young white people though I doubt that race has anything to do with the shooting”

    Chuck, this attitude is as much an MSM cliche as calling Muslim rioters “youths.” Given what we all understand and barring any overwhelming evidence to the contrary, any act of malice committed by blacks against whites should be assumed to be racially motivated.

    What you wrote comes close to you pissing on these two young peoples’ grave before they are even buried.

  6. anti-racist 08/31/2012 at 2:33 pm

    whe will you racist knuckeldraggers get it through youre thicke skulls that Black Men are not racist

    1. wvery Black Man I have ever known has had a sexual relationship with a white girl. if Black Men hated white people why the hell would they engage in the most intimate contact with white women?

    2. Black People move to white areas. they value diversity and want ot live around whites. can’t say the same for white folks who tend to selfsegreagte!

  7. Promoting Justice 08/31/2012 at 2:41 pm

    Props on the bass in your voice Anti-Racist. I never liked being friends with white boys and white women are too skinny or have bad skin.

  8. Lara 08/31/2012 at 2:43 pm

    If I went and shot two black people, it would be considered a racially motivated crime. The same assumption should be made in this case.

  9. Scott 08/31/2012 at 2:48 pm

    ” Black People move to white areas”
    That’s because no one trusts black people, even other black people.

  10. namae nanka 08/31/2012 at 3:22 pm

    “Spencer insisted that romantic love cannot coexist with coercion or in a superior-subordinate relationship. Love can subsist and flourish only between equals”

    “Love is a phenomenon of projection just as hate is, not a phenomenon of equation as friendship is. The latter presupposes an equality of both individuals: love always implies inequality, disproportion. To endow an individual with all that one might be and yet never can be, to make her ideal – that is love. ”

    http://kaganof.com/kagablog/2010/08/08/otto-weininger-on-what-love-is/

    Weininger mentions Spencer in his work, though not in this regard.

    Vox Day has used the argument as Spencer regarding rescinding voting rights to women, LA is a new addition?

    http://voxday.blogspot.in/2012/08/free-society-or-political-equality.html

  11. C.R. 08/31/2012 at 3:24 pm

    PA, your comment is bullshit. i’m not pissing on anyone before they’re buried. it’s fucked up for you to throw that at me.

    read my thought process there. first, i don’t think you get to set the parameters for the debate. we don’t have to wait for “overwhelming evidence” at this point to determine how we should characterize this crime. of course my first thought was the racial angle. that’s always the first assumption. but besides the racial factor there is the fact that the guy killed a young woman. if it was racially motivated i wouldn’t expect the guy to go after a chick. i looked all the way through that guy’s tweets and didn’t see any sort of racial hostility. otoh, i did see him pining and whining about women. he also seemed like a David Alexander type black dude and it seems more likely that he was rejected by the girl.

  12. Lara 08/31/2012 at 3:34 pm

    Chuck,
    If you read through his tweets, he specifically says he doesn’t like white women.

  13. C.R. 08/31/2012 at 3:39 pm

    found it. he’s saying he’s not attracted to “white girls”. maybe it’s not a love triangle. maybe it is racially motivated. regardless, PA probably wouldn’t flip the same logic on himself (that he’s pissing on these people’s grave) if he’s found to be wrong.

  14. Dan 08/31/2012 at 3:41 pm

    If he’s black it’s racially motivated. Are you fn stupid Chuck?

  15. PA 08/31/2012 at 4:23 pm

    - “i don’t think you get to set the parameters for the debate”

    Of course I don’t. Neither does anyone here, nor most anyone worth reading for that matter. We are dissidents, and as such we are not allowed anywhere near the place where parameters for the debate are set. But as I wrote maybe as far back as two years ago, you have the qualities that may get you close to that place, and the decency and honesty that deems you in my eyes as someone worth supporting in that goal. But you also have intellectual vulnerabilities that make you corruptible: mainly, its your wanting to play nice. That is both a strength and a vulnerability, and this is why I use strong language in cases like above.

    - “we don’t have to wait for ‘overwhelming evidence’ at this point to determine how we should characterize this crime”

    In the case of blacks, we do. It is deluded or dishonest to say otherwise.

    - “he also seemed like a David Alexander type black dude”

    That doesn’t help your case. David Alexander is a cesspool of racial obsession, minus the usual black posturing.

  16. Lara 08/31/2012 at 4:39 pm

    My reasoning was that if a white person shot two black people, there would be open speculation that it was racially motivated. So we should do the same for them. There is also the added reality that black people are far angrier at white people than the reverse.
    I wouldn’t punish all black people for the crimes of one, but we should at least be able to speculate why he did it.

  17. And Balls 08/31/2012 at 7:33 pm

    Promoting Justice has a nice schtick so far. Chuck please dont ban.

  18. The fourth doorman of the apocalypse 08/31/2012 at 8:36 pm

    more blacks committing racist attacks on whites and this time for being with a black woman … seems that anti-racist has been sucking his own dick too much.

  19. C.R. 08/31/2012 at 10:09 pm

    PA,

    “In the case of blacks, we do. It is deluded or dishonest to say otherwise.”

    Be careful with your words. Calling me deluded is fine. It just means you disagree strongly with me. But “dishonest”? Just from a logical standpoint, this isn’t even a question of honesty. The only test of my honesty is whether or not I’m writing here what I really and truly think about this. And in this case, I don’t believe that race was a motivating factor. None of the signs are there other than the superficial difference. The black guy wasn’t a thug. He tweeted that he joined the Marines because of 9/11. His coworkers, including a Hispanic chick, said he was crazy-looking. Just as James Holmes didn’t shoot up Aurora because of white privilege, I don’t think this guy shot up the store because of racist intent. I mean, have I pulled punches in the past on these things? I’ve gone after plenty of these stories and even pushed on ones that the MSM didn’t believe were motivated by race (Cincinnati, OH attack most recently). I scour the net looking for this shit and when I see that connection I call it out (not that I’m the only one or anything). I even coined the term “eraced” to describe certain news stories. And the one time I don’t call out racism or interpret the facts that I know a bit differently than you’d like, I’m being dishonest or damn near pissing on these dead peoples’ graves? That’s a fucked up thing to say.

  20. JustSayIt 08/31/2012 at 10:53 pm

    Yes, race is a factor. Black people always talk about race. Black people grow up feeling restentment and envy toward white people with everything they hear around them. They are primed for violence against white people.

  21. anti-racist 09/01/2012 at 8:03 am

    “Yes, race is a factor. Black people always talk about race. Black people grow up feeling restentment and envy toward white people with everything they hear around them. They are primed for violence against white people.”

    so much so that Blac Men engage in sexual relationships with white girls all the time

    idiot

  22. Promoting Justice 09/01/2012 at 8:31 am

    Tell them white boys Anti-Racist. You speak in clear arguments.

  23. Camlost 09/01/2012 at 9:56 am

    Amanda Kijera award:

    White woman campaigns for free bus rides for black students, then her son gets beaten up on a bus by “you know who”:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2196164/Mothers-horror-fights-make-buses-free-students–son-brutally-BEATEN-start-school-year.html

  24. George 09/01/2012 at 10:32 am

    If that racist beat down of the White kid going with the black female had been a black male with a white female the media would have lit up like a flare. Every news group around the world would have led off for weeks with this story. Every member of the Whites’ family that beat up the black male going with the white female would have been investigated and it would still be raging on the anti-White media around the world, but because blacks beat up a White guy for being with a black female all you hear is the sound of crickets and the excuses of “anti-racists”.
    Of course this was an anti-White black racist shooting and of the worst kind. A trained black Marine who knew exactly what he was doing and how to do it against helpless unarmed Whites. A revolting Black man of the worst kind. Truly a monster.

  25. The fourth doorman of the apocalypse 09/01/2012 at 1:26 pm

    White woman campaigns for free bus rides for black students, then her son gets beaten up on a bus by “you know who”

    Heh. We should make sure to ridicule her all over the web. Trying to be “whiter than white” has its costs.

  26. SOBL1 09/01/2012 at 2:28 pm

    In 1992, Pat Buchanan was right about immigration, Ross Perot was right about spending + NAFTA, and Dan Quayle was right about single moms. All were laughed at and mocked by the mainstream media. All are owed an apology.

    The portrayal of immigration in the MSM is pretty despicable as they swap motives and reasoning in and out. The MSM has only been worse with the swapping when dealing with the housing crisis. The MSM will jump from portraying buyers as smart users or dumb marks, lenders as predators or lenders as dumb, banks as evil or just enforcing the contract, and they do this in the same paper in the same month. The LA Times scared people about potential arson attempts to get insurance for homes that dropped in value 30%, and then switched it around to say home fires were because of meth labs w/o evidence. There is no auditor of our media, which is a huge detriment when covering long term stories that cannot be reduced to one 30 second clip or article.

  27. Matt Strictland 09/02/2012 at 3:22 pm

    I agree with Lara here. IMO It was almost certainly racially motivated . Of course if a non White ran down the street screaming racial epitaphs and screaming “I’ll kill all Whites!” and it was on public cameras and the Web and proven , the media claim it was something else. It doesn’t fit the narrative or the political urges of that class.

    Also the Marines have a reason to claim otherwise as well. Sowing distrust among the races, in many cases unjustified in the service is a concern.

  28. stonerwithaboner 09/03/2012 at 1:04 am

    well where are Ryu and all the HBD neo nazi sh*theads saying that, yeah, well when a white guy goes postal, he gets more notches, er kills….

    then they can brag about their mancrushes on Breivik, Soldini and Holmes….

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