Gawker is running a series on most racist U.S. cities. So far Philly, Boston, and St. Louis have been nominated. Expect that shit hole website to milk this puppy for all it’s worth. They crowd-sourced people from St. Louis to tell them why St. Louis is racist. Keep in mind that when liberals talk about racism they only care about institutional racism. I guess someone will have to develop a term for the actions of BBBs who may lack political and economic power but are powerful at the street level i.e. where the average Joe draws his day-to-day experiences.
Hear it from St. Louisians!
Mark:
It is one of the last segregated cities in America…STL really does have “white” and “black” parts, like a checkerboard, and one does know immediately when one is in a certain “area”.
White people in town support the Republicans simply because their greatest fear is the Dems taking away their guns, resulting in hordes of black men invading West County and stealing/shooting anything and everything. When they are with friends, they trade horror stories they supposedly heard from other white people about some terrible thing happening at the hands of a black person, or “City Person” as is the local codeword.
Murphylee:
White people avoid North City, black people avoid much of South City, South County, and West County, and that’s that. Try being black and driving through a city like Ladue (or even worse St. Charles or some places in Jefferson County). And the fun part is that the metro area just keeps getting more and more spread out as white people move further and further away from the scary black people that populate the city or the inner-ring suburbs.
Nellyville:
As a black person who grew up there, fuck that place.
Airforceonez:
You don’t go to South St Louis if you are black. Period.
Fuckstlouis:
It’s a racist hellhole and it smells like dirty gym socks. Magary, just google Shelley v. Kraemer and the Dred Scott Case. Both of those originated in St. Louis. Oh, also the Fairgrounds Park Riot, where a bunch of whites in St. Louis rioted to keep black kids from swimming in a whites only pool.
What would happen to a black person in South St. Louis? What would happen to a white person in East St. Louis?
One could conduct an experiment if they wanted. Have 100 black men venture separately through a heavily white area of the St. Louis metro area. What will happen? Yeah, maybe they experience “racism”. Some turned heads, maybe even an “n-word” tossed out at them (though doubtful). Perhaps even some police profiling.
Take 100 white men and have them venture through the blackest parts of St. Louis. Someone’s going to get busted up, and it probably won’t be a black person.
Now, let’s do this experiment at night as well. Police harassment of the black men will likely increase as will the civilian harassment of the white men. But consider what tactics our two different test groups could use to limit whatever harassment they receive. If the cops mess with an innocent black guy walking at night through St. Louis, if he complies with police requests (however misguided and however much they infringe on his rights), he will be safe. If the black guy goes out of his way to ensure that the cops know that he is harmless, he will be OK.
A white guy could plead, beg, throw up his arms to show the black guys that are confronting him that he is not causing trouble. And that won’t really matter anyway because the black guys who are about to beat his ass aren’t confronting him because they’re worried that he’s going to cause trouble. They’re going to beat his ass because he’s white and because they can get away with it and blow off some steam against society in the process.
To reverse that, there are different social forces preventing both whites and blacks (men, mostly) from venturing into neighborhoods heavily populated by the opposite race. I sympathize with the anxiety that a black man would feel when he goes through an area where he sticks out like a sore thumb. But again, there are ways for him to basically conform to his surroundings. If he wants. Much more often we see a black person enter a white enclave while still carrying with them their “black identity”. Their’s isn’t a fearful response; it’s defiance. Now, imagine a white man acting defiantly in a black enclave. It mostly won’t happen. This isn’t Gran Torino.
Here’s a video for when Gawker hits Baltimore. Same rules apply.
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On Oct. 21, Matt Quain, 52, a dishwasher, was severely beaten in a knockout assault on South Grand Boulevard. The mayor helped rescue him. Seven middle schoolers, some as young as 12, were arrested. Then, at a juvenile court hearing in January, the main witness, a 13-year-old classmate of the defendants, failed to show up. The case was tossed out.
The kids celebrated. Others howled.
“People all over the city of St. Louis are outraged over this,” Mayor Francis Slay said.
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“If the cops mess with an innocent black guy walking at night through St. Louis, if he complies with police requests (however misguided and however much they infringe on his rights), he will be safe. If the black guy goes out of his way to ensure that the cops know that he is harmless, he will be OK.”
yeah, he might of sucker punched the guy or he coulda been misidentified by the copper…
and, yeah, you shouldn’t get into a scuffle when two ladies fight, let ‘em tear each other up, that’s equality, right?
I have not seen any American city that isn’t a “checkerboard”. And I’ve been to many.
Nobody likes racial integration. It’s unnatural, except for blacks in peak-Negro America, where safe access to white people’s goods is mandated and enforced.
Imposing racial integration on unwilling people fits the UN definition of genocide. Look it up.
Are these disingenuous white liberals really this dumb? I mean are they really this fucking stupid?
I know plenty of Democrat voters and essentially all of them, with some prodding and a few jokes on my part, have admitted that blacks and black areas are dangerous in a way that no white areas, even trailer parks and hick towns, are. They may vote liberal and they may be uncomfortable discussing black violence, but they would never engage in the type of insane rhetoric as above.
That Baltimore shit was vicious. But that guy is alive. The white from Minneapolis is not. Whites should follow those Derbyshire rules. You will stay alive. And if you live in a place where you can carry a firearm, do so. Otherwise carry a knife or a mace.
Good article. The more black people in a city, the more the white people living there are going to be racist. It is not small populations of black people that white people are picking on.
Yes, of course Stoner defends negros. He is a mixlet, which essentially means that he is black. As we’ve mentioned for a long time, non-whites will ALWAYS back their own. Your logic and reason means nothing. If Stoner loves the American negros so much, there is a nest of them in East St Louis.
I know exactly what Gawker is talking about. No – Detroit is the most racist city in the US. That’s because all the non-vibrants get to see what 92% black does for you. Also, the most racist continent is Africa for the same reason.
What racist means is a man who knows exactly what the negro is like, and treats him exactly the same way every other negro does. They just want to have a pity party on whitey’s dime, again. Looks like that guilt is a non-renewable resource.
white people are responsible for the oppression of People of Color and especially Men of Darkest Rich and Majestic Color. Some uppity people of lighter Color dismiss our Primacy and our priority for Justice.
Anti-Racist your wit is also excellent. You mock white boys as well as intellectually dominate them. As you well know Justice is getting Promoted. Lead the way Soldier.
The problem is that liberals and conservatives have a different definition of racism.
Liberals see racism as a social construct, anything other than the choice of a perfectly integrated neighborhood, in other words whites not just avoiding blacks but actively holding them back and away.
Conservatives see racism as something more a part of human nature, i.e. it goes both ways, people want to be around those they can relate to and away from those they see as detrimental to their own ideals.
A commenter on the Gawker article mentioned a documentary about a failed St. Louis housing project called “The Pruitt-Igoe Myth” (Netflix instant). The commenter writes: “The cause is complex and still debated, but it seems to me like it was a lot of institutionalized racism and hostility towards the very poor. Terrible social policies and a lack of services pretty much guaranteed that the cycle of poverty would get worse and worse until reasonable people became violently desperate.”
That wasn’t my take when I watched it. The deterioration of the housing project was simply blamed on the city not doing enough to maintain it. That is, the residents turning the housing project into something resembling a third world shithole was blamed on the city not employing janitors and groundskeepers to keep the place clean and tidy. If an elevator in the building breaks down and it isn’t repaired immediately, it’s the white man’s fault when blacks start using the elevator as a toilet.
Any of you attacking Stoner for his “mixed race” ( I dare say pretty much everyone is SOME level of mixed anyway) are disgusting assholes. Chuck has some intelligent commenters, why he lets mouth breathers from the white nationalist movement make personal attacks on another poster, only he knows.
white boy clarence understands that Man of Color Stoner With A Boner may not be disrespected. Disrespect will be met with Boots to the head bitches. It is good that some white boys have an understanding with our Soldiers of Justice. To know your place is to know mercy. Ten Hut
You don’t do your cause any credit by pointing to a singular case of police brutality (which are statistically more prevalent among non-white officers for that matter) when anyone can rebut by flooding a thousand times as many media articles of violence from black civilians.
When I was a junkie I would get fucked with by the cops all the time on the west side of Chicago for being white in the Division and Pulaski area. Hell, where I lived in Rogers Park the cops forced me to stop walking down Howard Street because they thought I was an addict. Well, I was, but I didn’t score on Howard, I just lived right off of it. No black person in Chicago is going to get fucked with just for walking into an all white apartment complex in a nice area. If you’re white and wander into an all black housing complex or project in Chicago, you’ll more than likely end up getting beat or robbed. Around blacks, never relax.
White people in town support the Republicans simply because their greatest fear is the Dems taking away their guns, resulting in hordes of black men invading West County and stealing/shooting anything and everything. When they are with friends, they trade horror stories they supposedly heard from other white people about some terrible thing happening at the hands of a black person, or “City Person” as is the local codeword.
I’m pretty sure she was killed by a couple of “codewords”, I might be wrong but I doubt it,
CR:
Why do you bother to write if you don’t want to be listened to?
Do you really feel you will gain a wider audience by allowing personal attacks based on race (or hell, anything) for no reason at all?
At least when you write at a place like TGMP you have cover from this sort of bullshit. If people knew some of your long-time commenters feel free to insult people due to race(and nothing else) – well, that limits your audience right there.
But hey, your blog.
I merely take note, and call out idiots when I see them. And I do note that you whined more about my comment defending a polite commenter than you did about the initial off-topic hostility.
You are a faithful servant white boy clarence. Not a Man of Vigorous Loins like our Senior Officer Anti-Racist but few white boys are. He may be the only one. But you may carry our sandals and one day raise to higher responsibilities as you continue to show loyalty to Justice. This is meant as praise rarely given to those of your kind so be proud white boy.
“Clarence” is just a modern updated version of the Spanish Inquisitor, with iron maiden replaced by ascii whine. The heretic burner has morphed into the concern troll.
@Clarence
I think Chuck simply doesn’t believe in censoring differing or uncomfortable viewpoints. It’s a matter of principle. Leftists in general and feminists in particular have a tendency to silence contrary opinions in their comment sections, but Chuck and most of his readers consider that to be an act of intellectual cowardice and insecurity.
Allowing someone to have their say is not the same as endorsing what they are saying.
I’ve singled out Ryu numerous times for being dramatic and stupid. But I don’t call out people for saying “offensive” things. I don’t think in those terms. I’m less apt to condemn offensive speech than I am people who want to police offensive speech. We’re all adults. We can all determine for ourselves who is worth listening to and who isn’t. Truth is, I didn’t read Ryu’s comment. Even if I had I wouldn’t start wagging my virtual finger at him just to appease you. My taking a stand on what Ryu says about stonerwithaboner would be mere posturing on my part. Whereas I address you because you’re directly addressing what I do or do not say.
yeah, he’s such a hero. He travels the internet in binary calling out idiots wherever they exist. David Futrelle does that shit as well, trolling internet comments and then holding up such commentary as evidence of some deeper issue. Funny that Futrelle and Clarence here actually do look like trolls in the flesh.
Holding up comments to whom?
I didn’t go someplace else on the web and diss you behind your back, Chuckles.
I merely defended a commenter in this section of the web who generally doesn’t treat other people like shit.
Since it’s all words on the internet that hardly makes me a hero.
Jesus fucking Christ. Since when have I ever asked for approval from any of you?
Do you see a big “Clarence” fan club , or a blog where I pat myself on the back for all my callouts? Fatrelle makes money for what he does, and he doesn’t hesitate to downright lie about those he writes about on top of it. I don’t lie, I don’t make money or groupies off this and my “call outs” might average 2 a month, if that. I have better things to do with my time then “police” the internet. I defended Stoner because he’s a decent person and since this blog is all free speechy and all that it was what I wanted to do. I suppose Chuckles whined about it because that is what HE would rather do other than discuss his great post in an adult manner. I’ll also say that Ryu is a mouth-breathing shit for brains who stains the comments section of any blog he posts on and that Heartiste ran crying to his mommy when LadyRaine spanked him. Because I want to.
To each their own.
To answer your question white boy clarence there is no clarence fan club. You are at recruit servant level to our Soldiers. But with sufficient and credible display of loyalty your advancement can reach higher Ranks.
Stoner stop making us half-breeds look bad by bringing up dumb liberal memes like the Abner Louima issue, when Louisa could have kept his ass in Haiti or simply obeyed the police in the first place.
Camlost:
I think I just lost 50 IQ points reading your utterly ignorant stupidity.
I’d tell you to read Stoner’s linked article and find out where you comment diverges from reality, but reading more than 2 or 3 sentences in a row is probably too hard for you.
Anyway, I’m off to do better things with my day. Let the record show that not everyone who reads or posts on this blog is a mouth-breathing racist retard. See Chuckles? I come here sometimes. Good public relations !
white boys beaten by white not clarence. Good job boy. But you are mistaken in thinking you can leave. Your orders are to stay here harass racists and help Men do their job.
Actually, Futrelle doesn’t lie. I’ve never seen him lie. He just has a fundamentally different point of view on the topics that he writes about. This is true of you as well. So if you oppose Futrelle then you should understand why you’re meeting opposition here.
Point of all of this is that you are adding comments to this thread in order to dilute the racism of some other commenters. How mighty noble of you. Why do you care to do that? Why waste the time? To assuage guilt or something? Maybe you should go make a “Dear Black People” video or something if you care so much.
You’d have been better addressing Ryu directly rather than trying to chastise me for not calling Ryu out. Ryu isn’t changing minds here so you basically just want me to do it in order to earn some sort of merit badge you think I should wear.
2) Missouri was the “bellwether state” for like 60 years – whichever president they went for won the election – until Obama. Most of my family are Democrats, and I know they’d never vote for a black man. Ditto for the bulk of Democrat Missouri: working-class, white St. Louisans. They didn’t turn out and Missouri’s no longer the bellwether.
3) I didn’t know dropping the N-bomb around white people could be a cultural faux paus – until I spent some time in a blue state.
4) St. Louis is the top soccer hotbed in America. Why? In my opinion, because blacks don’t play it. In STL you can also find the highest percentage of whites who are basketball scrubs. Why? Blacks play it. Just my opinion of course.
The Gawker piece selected extreme comments from morons however. Blacks can and do venture to white parts of STL. But it’s true they get crazy police harassment, probably worse than any other city and I imagine it’s measurable.
As a commenter here said, there’s a flip side where white guys get pulled over in black neighborhoods. The reason they “flag” us is because there are only two reasons we’d be in those neighborhoods: 1) to buy drugs, in which case they need to search and 2) we’re lost in which case they point the way out. I lived in middle class black neighborhoods where they didn’t flag, and I don’t disagree with cops doing it in the worse areas. They’re trying to help!
Another commenter mentioned the Pruitt-Igoe doc, which I agree had a crazy taint completely absolving the idea of public housing.
That knockout game phenomenon goes back to the 90s. I’d taken part once, with an all-white gang. But I thank that’s an exception to the rule.
Re: 100 white people going to North STL – I know a group that has done and continues to do it. FBC is a cycling club and they go on mass bike rides, and they’ve done the North Side naked. The key is there’s safety in numbers.
Colin’s comments simply go along with my understanding that there is very little to no possibility of a social equilibrium wherein blacks and whites can cohabit the same jurisdiction, on whatever scale, in a way that is agreeable to both.
What people refer to as “racist city” or Colin’s four bullet point examples, is simple a mechanism that white communities use to prevent themselves from submitting to black cultural norms. In other words, the racist, soccer-playing residents of St. Louis are asserting their right to exist.
This right is enshrined in various UN human rights resolutions that cover the right to culture and community, and the state’s duty to not interfere in their natural continuation.
I take back everything bad I ever said about Promoting Justice. The man is a comic genius.
Anyway, your idea for an experiment reminded me that some TV show did a small version of it back in the nineties, and then sold it as a documentary. I had to watch it in a college class. They sent a white guy and a black guy into St Louis to see how badly the black guy was discriminated against.
It was about what you would expect. People not being helpful enough to the black guy at stores or when he was applying for a job. At night, a cop in a car watched the black guy. Didn’t do anything to him, just watched him for a few seconds. Later on, a man in a truck leaned out and said “You’re a bit far south, ain’t you?”. And that was pretty much it. One guy wouldn’t rent him an apartment, but they never mentioned how many apartments they applied for that he WOULD have been accepted for.
Needless to say, they didn’t do the part about sending the white guy into East St Louis
If you really want to see it, here it is on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyL5EcAwB9c . It’s pretty pointless, but it’s kind of funny to watch the black guy write in his journal in Part 2.
I live in Central Illinois… East St Louis is a running joke here.
If I lived closer to St Louis I’d be even more racist.
‘Knockout game’ case shocked St. Louis, then fell apart
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/knockout-game-case-shocked-st-louis-then-fell-apart/article_cdf5032a-b65e-51e0-a84e-de0f0ce0c5f8.html
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On Oct. 21, Matt Quain, 52, a dishwasher, was severely beaten in a knockout assault on South Grand Boulevard. The mayor helped rescue him. Seven middle schoolers, some as young as 12, were arrested. Then, at a juvenile court hearing in January, the main witness, a 13-year-old classmate of the defendants, failed to show up. The case was tossed out.
The kids celebrated. Others howled.
“People all over the city of St. Louis are outraged over this,” Mayor Francis Slay said.
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dude, you really need to do some research….
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima
“If the cops mess with an innocent black guy walking at night through St. Louis, if he complies with police requests (however misguided and however much they infringe on his rights), he will be safe. If the black guy goes out of his way to ensure that the cops know that he is harmless, he will be OK.”
yeah, he might of sucker punched the guy or he coulda been misidentified by the copper…
and, yeah, you shouldn’t get into a scuffle when two ladies fight, let ‘em tear each other up, that’s equality, right?
I have not seen any American city that isn’t a “checkerboard”. And I’ve been to many.
Nobody likes racial integration. It’s unnatural, except for blacks in peak-Negro America, where safe access to white people’s goods is mandated and enforced.
Imposing racial integration on unwilling people fits the UN definition of genocide. Look it up.
Are these disingenuous white liberals really this dumb? I mean are they really this fucking stupid?
I know plenty of Democrat voters and essentially all of them, with some prodding and a few jokes on my part, have admitted that blacks and black areas are dangerous in a way that no white areas, even trailer parks and hick towns, are. They may vote liberal and they may be uncomfortable discussing black violence, but they would never engage in the type of insane rhetoric as above.
stonerwithaboner, do you honestly believe there is more police-on-black brutality than there is black-on-nonblack brutality?
@ stoner
Seen and raised:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom
Seriously just shut the fuck up.
That Baltimore shit was vicious. But that guy is alive. The white from Minneapolis is not. Whites should follow those Derbyshire rules. You will stay alive. And if you live in a place where you can carry a firearm, do so. Otherwise carry a knife or a mace.
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Stoner – you’re ‘research’ consists of the Wiki on that Louima case ? High grade stuff.
Though I suppose if Gawker can ‘find’ the most ‘racist’ city in America (whtever the hell that means) by obtaining evidence like this -
“This story from CharlieL: “I was just shopping when two teenage male African Americans walked behind me and one said to the other ‘I hate chinks.’”
from anonymous internet people, then i suppose your lame attempt does count as ‘research’.
Bravo.
And the answer to the pingback blog heading question is – apparently yes.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Good article. The more black people in a city, the more the white people living there are going to be racist. It is not small populations of black people that white people are picking on.
Yes, of course Stoner defends negros. He is a mixlet, which essentially means that he is black. As we’ve mentioned for a long time, non-whites will ALWAYS back their own. Your logic and reason means nothing. If Stoner loves the American negros so much, there is a nest of them in East St Louis.
I know exactly what Gawker is talking about. No – Detroit is the most racist city in the US. That’s because all the non-vibrants get to see what 92% black does for you. Also, the most racist continent is Africa for the same reason.
What racist means is a man who knows exactly what the negro is like, and treats him exactly the same way every other negro does. They just want to have a pity party on whitey’s dime, again. Looks like that guilt is a non-renewable resource.
People tend to assume any police officer acting badly is white. I don’t think that’s the case anymore.
Abner Louima should have kept his black ass in Haiti, then. I’m sure the Hatian government treated him much better than the NYPD.
Or, he should have been smart enough to know that clocking a police officer upside the head outside a nightclub could get him hurt.
oh no the scary brown people are coming!
guys People of Color are nice and friendly
if yo would get out of your parents basement you would understnas that
white people are responsible for the oppression of People of Color and especially Men of Darkest Rich and Majestic Color. Some uppity people of lighter Color dismiss our Primacy and our priority for Justice.
Anti-Racist your wit is also excellent. You mock white boys as well as intellectually dominate them. As you well know Justice is getting Promoted. Lead the way Soldier.
The problem is that liberals and conservatives have a different definition of racism.
Liberals see racism as a social construct, anything other than the choice of a perfectly integrated neighborhood, in other words whites not just avoiding blacks but actively holding them back and away.
Conservatives see racism as something more a part of human nature, i.e. it goes both ways, people want to be around those they can relate to and away from those they see as detrimental to their own ideals.
A commenter on the Gawker article mentioned a documentary about a failed St. Louis housing project called “The Pruitt-Igoe Myth” (Netflix instant). The commenter writes: “The cause is complex and still debated, but it seems to me like it was a lot of institutionalized racism and hostility towards the very poor. Terrible social policies and a lack of services pretty much guaranteed that the cycle of poverty would get worse and worse until reasonable people became violently desperate.”
That wasn’t my take when I watched it. The deterioration of the housing project was simply blamed on the city not doing enough to maintain it. That is, the residents turning the housing project into something resembling a third world shithole was blamed on the city not employing janitors and groundskeepers to keep the place clean and tidy. If an elevator in the building breaks down and it isn’t repaired immediately, it’s the white man’s fault when blacks start using the elevator as a toilet.
Any of you attacking Stoner for his “mixed race” ( I dare say pretty much everyone is SOME level of mixed anyway) are disgusting assholes. Chuck has some intelligent commenters, why he lets mouth breathers from the white nationalist movement make personal attacks on another poster, only he knows.
white boy clarence understands that Man of Color Stoner With A Boner may not be disrespected. Disrespect will be met with Boots to the head bitches. It is good that some white boys have an understanding with our Soldiers of Justice. To know your place is to know mercy. Ten Hut
Clarence,
you sound like a girl. this is the internet…people say shit. they rag on me for having a black adopted grandfather. you think i listen or care?
You don’t do your cause any credit by pointing to a singular case of police brutality (which are statistically more prevalent among non-white officers for that matter) when anyone can rebut by flooding a thousand times as many media articles of violence from black civilians.
Done, and I like the way you think.
When I was a junkie I would get fucked with by the cops all the time on the west side of Chicago for being white in the Division and Pulaski area. Hell, where I lived in Rogers Park the cops forced me to stop walking down Howard Street because they thought I was an addict. Well, I was, but I didn’t score on Howard, I just lived right off of it. No black person in Chicago is going to get fucked with just for walking into an all white apartment complex in a nice area. If you’re white and wander into an all black housing complex or project in Chicago, you’ll more than likely end up getting beat or robbed. Around blacks, never relax.
Mark:
White people in town support the Republicans simply because their greatest fear is the Dems taking away their guns, resulting in hordes of black men invading West County and stealing/shooting anything and everything. When they are with friends, they trade horror stories they supposedly heard from other white people about some terrible thing happening at the hands of a black person, or “City Person” as is the local codeword.
I’m pretty sure she was killed by a couple of “codewords”, I might be wrong but I doubt it,
St. Louis University volleyball player Megan Boken
CR:
Why do you bother to write if you don’t want to be listened to?
Do you really feel you will gain a wider audience by allowing personal attacks based on race (or hell, anything) for no reason at all?
At least when you write at a place like TGMP you have cover from this sort of bullshit. If people knew some of your long-time commenters feel free to insult people due to race(and nothing else) – well, that limits your audience right there.
But hey, your blog.
I merely take note, and call out idiots when I see them. And I do note that you whined more about my comment defending a polite commenter than you did about the initial off-topic hostility.
You are a faithful servant white boy clarence. Not a Man of Vigorous Loins like our Senior Officer Anti-Racist but few white boys are. He may be the only one. But you may carry our sandals and one day raise to higher responsibilities as you continue to show loyalty to Justice. This is meant as praise rarely given to those of your kind so be proud white boy.
“Clarence” is just a modern updated version of the Spanish Inquisitor, with iron maiden replaced by ascii whine. The heretic burner has morphed into the concern troll.
This is your one and final warning white boy heartiste. Do not disrespect one of our Soldiers no matter how lowly he may be.
@Clarence
I think Chuck simply doesn’t believe in censoring differing or uncomfortable viewpoints. It’s a matter of principle. Leftists in general and feminists in particular have a tendency to silence contrary opinions in their comment sections, but Chuck and most of his readers consider that to be an act of intellectual cowardice and insecurity.
Allowing someone to have their say is not the same as endorsing what they are saying.
white boy clarence understands that Man of Color Stoner With A Boner may not be disrespected.
This sentence is the nadir of the English language.
Clarence,
I’ve singled out Ryu numerous times for being dramatic and stupid. But I don’t call out people for saying “offensive” things. I don’t think in those terms. I’m less apt to condemn offensive speech than I am people who want to police offensive speech. We’re all adults. We can all determine for ourselves who is worth listening to and who isn’t. Truth is, I didn’t read Ryu’s comment. Even if I had I wouldn’t start wagging my virtual finger at him just to appease you. My taking a stand on what Ryu says about stonerwithaboner would be mere posturing on my part. Whereas I address you because you’re directly addressing what I do or do not say.
Heartiste:
yeah, he’s such a hero. He travels the internet in binary calling out idiots wherever they exist. David Futrelle does that shit as well, trolling internet comments and then holding up such commentary as evidence of some deeper issue. Funny that Futrelle and Clarence here actually do look like trolls in the flesh.
Holding up comments to whom?
I didn’t go someplace else on the web and diss you behind your back, Chuckles.
I merely defended a commenter in this section of the web who generally doesn’t treat other people like shit.
Since it’s all words on the internet that hardly makes me a hero.
Jesus fucking Christ. Since when have I ever asked for approval from any of you?
Do you see a big “Clarence” fan club , or a blog where I pat myself on the back for all my callouts? Fatrelle makes money for what he does, and he doesn’t hesitate to downright lie about those he writes about on top of it. I don’t lie, I don’t make money or groupies off this and my “call outs” might average 2 a month, if that. I have better things to do with my time then “police” the internet. I defended Stoner because he’s a decent person and since this blog is all free speechy and all that it was what I wanted to do. I suppose Chuckles whined about it because that is what HE would rather do other than discuss his great post in an adult manner. I’ll also say that Ryu is a mouth-breathing shit for brains who stains the comments section of any blog he posts on and that Heartiste ran crying to his mommy when LadyRaine spanked him. Because I want to.
To each their own.
To answer your question white boy clarence there is no clarence fan club. You are at recruit servant level to our Soldiers. But with sufficient and credible display of loyalty your advancement can reach higher Ranks.
Clarence stop whining like a little bitch.
Stoner stop making us half-breeds look bad by bringing up dumb liberal memes like the Abner Louima issue, when Louisa could have kept his ass in Haiti or simply obeyed the police in the first place.
Camlost:
I think I just lost 50 IQ points reading your utterly ignorant stupidity.
I’d tell you to read Stoner’s linked article and find out where you comment diverges from reality, but reading more than 2 or 3 sentences in a row is probably too hard for you.
Anyway, I’m off to do better things with my day. Let the record show that not everyone who reads or posts on this blog is a mouth-breathing racist retard. See Chuckles? I come here sometimes. Good public relations !
white boys beaten by white not clarence. Good job boy. But you are mistaken in thinking you can leave. Your orders are to stay here harass racists and help Men do their job.
Clarence – the “praise” you are getting from Promoting Justice is a fitting reward for your preaching bullshit. Enjoy it.
Clarence:
Actually, Futrelle doesn’t lie. I’ve never seen him lie. He just has a fundamentally different point of view on the topics that he writes about. This is true of you as well. So if you oppose Futrelle then you should understand why you’re meeting opposition here.
Point of all of this is that you are adding comments to this thread in order to dilute the racism of some other commenters. How mighty noble of you. Why do you care to do that? Why waste the time? To assuage guilt or something? Maybe you should go make a “Dear Black People” video or something if you care so much.
You’d have been better addressing Ryu directly rather than trying to chastise me for not calling Ryu out. Ryu isn’t changing minds here so you basically just want me to do it in order to earn some sort of merit badge you think I should wear.
Well………., I gotta confess that I tend to agree with Ryu. A lot. And I used to be a compassionate conservative, or something like that.
I’m from St. Louis and it is probably the most racist city in the US. A few points:
1) The BBC piece / Manhattan Institute study showing it’s most segregated in the US: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17361995
2) Missouri was the “bellwether state” for like 60 years – whichever president they went for won the election – until Obama. Most of my family are Democrats, and I know they’d never vote for a black man. Ditto for the bulk of Democrat Missouri: working-class, white St. Louisans. They didn’t turn out and Missouri’s no longer the bellwether.
3) I didn’t know dropping the N-bomb around white people could be a cultural faux paus – until I spent some time in a blue state.
4) St. Louis is the top soccer hotbed in America. Why? In my opinion, because blacks don’t play it. In STL you can also find the highest percentage of whites who are basketball scrubs. Why? Blacks play it. Just my opinion of course.
The Gawker piece selected extreme comments from morons however. Blacks can and do venture to white parts of STL. But it’s true they get crazy police harassment, probably worse than any other city and I imagine it’s measurable.
As a commenter here said, there’s a flip side where white guys get pulled over in black neighborhoods. The reason they “flag” us is because there are only two reasons we’d be in those neighborhoods: 1) to buy drugs, in which case they need to search and 2) we’re lost in which case they point the way out. I lived in middle class black neighborhoods where they didn’t flag, and I don’t disagree with cops doing it in the worse areas. They’re trying to help!
Another commenter mentioned the Pruitt-Igoe doc, which I agree had a crazy taint completely absolving the idea of public housing.
Little more:
That knockout game phenomenon goes back to the 90s. I’d taken part once, with an all-white gang. But I thank that’s an exception to the rule.
Re: 100 white people going to North STL – I know a group that has done and continues to do it. FBC is a cycling club and they go on mass bike rides, and they’ve done the North Side naked. The key is there’s safety in numbers.
Colin’s comments simply go along with my understanding that there is very little to no possibility of a social equilibrium wherein blacks and whites can cohabit the same jurisdiction, on whatever scale, in a way that is agreeable to both.
What people refer to as “racist city” or Colin’s four bullet point examples, is simple a mechanism that white communities use to prevent themselves from submitting to black cultural norms. In other words, the racist, soccer-playing residents of St. Louis are asserting their right to exist.
This right is enshrined in various UN human rights resolutions that cover the right to culture and community, and the state’s duty to not interfere in their natural continuation.
I take back everything bad I ever said about Promoting Justice. The man is a comic genius.
Anyway, your idea for an experiment reminded me that some TV show did a small version of it back in the nineties, and then sold it as a documentary. I had to watch it in a college class. They sent a white guy and a black guy into St Louis to see how badly the black guy was discriminated against.
It was about what you would expect. People not being helpful enough to the black guy at stores or when he was applying for a job. At night, a cop in a car watched the black guy. Didn’t do anything to him, just watched him for a few seconds. Later on, a man in a truck leaned out and said “You’re a bit far south, ain’t you?”. And that was pretty much it. One guy wouldn’t rent him an apartment, but they never mentioned how many apartments they applied for that he WOULD have been accepted for.
Needless to say, they didn’t do the part about sending the white guy into East St Louis
If you really want to see it, here it is on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyL5EcAwB9c . It’s pretty pointless, but it’s kind of funny to watch the black guy write in his journal in Part 2.