Cord Jefferson jumps on the issue of the Florida Board of Education’s expectations gap. He falters right off the bat:
In Florida this month, the state board of education approved one of the most controversial sets of educational achievement goals the country has seen in quite some time.
Except, many states have explicitly stated expectations gaps for students of different races. The New York Times noted that 34 states have different stated goals for different demographics. Only eight states have uniform goals for all kids regardless of race or background. So Jefferson misunderstands the issue but he continues anyway:
In an effort to close the racial achievement gap that plagues much of America, the board decided to use that gap to set parameters for what it expects children of different races to achieve over the next six years. Breaking from George W. Bush’s “No Child Left Behind,” which demanded uniform achievement goals for all students in an effort to avoid “soft bigotry,” Florida is now going to have racially stratified educational targets in math and reading. In other words, black children performing more poorly than white children won’t just be tolerated, it will be the rule. [ed: that's not a rule by any stretch of the word; that's an expectation, and a reasonable if not unfortunate one.] For something deemed “soft bigotry,” this sure seems pretty hard.
President Obama’s Race to the Top initiative, which is a spinoff of NCLB, has also caused states to set goal gaps for different racial cohorts. For example, in their applications for RTTT’s $4 billion cash-prize allotment, New York and New Jersey both set disparate goals for the different races. And that’s just two of the states whose RTTT applications I scoured through.
Given the existence of the gap and the unrealistic goals of No Child Left Behind, states had to seek relief from these onerous goals. The various states realized the limitations of their students’ ability and the ability of the system to bring them up to par. States essentially told the federal government, “hey, look, it’s impossible to turn water into wine here; we need more time.” The federal government agreed and basically asked the states to lay out a plan. They set up a contest between the states to see who could promise the most bang for the buck. The Feds asked the states to show their work, and since NCLB and RTTT is largely about closing achievement gaps, the states showed their timeline for closing gaps which do actually exist in the real world.
Jefferson finishes:
On the other hand, when Florida says outright that inequities have made it so black students as a whole are hobbled and can’t achieve the way their white counterparts can, black leaders instinctually reel at what sounds like the wisdom of The Bell Curve. So where does the goodness of affirmative action end and the ugliness of Florida’s new racially divided policy begin? At what point does accepting the realities of what centuries of discrimination has done to the black community turn into new discrimination based on insultingly lowered expectations?
Executive summary: “We understand that achievement gaps do exist and that they exist for a multitude of reasons including a history of discrimination and the economic poverty of blacks in America. But we can never explicitly acknowledge this gap using numbers and percentages. This is dehumanizing for some reason that we can’t really explain. We want to fix the problem, but we do not want to implement the actuary methods to ensure that the problem is fixed.”
Jefferson’s phrase “insultingly lowered expectations” is curious. It implies that black students should easily meet the new expectations that the states have laid out for them. But do we really expect black student achievement to jump as dramatically as educators hope? Only 38% of Florida’s black students read at grade level, and only 40% score at their grade level in math. The state wants to get both numbers up to 74% proficiency by 2018. One hundred percent by 2023. Sixty-nine percent of whites are at grade level reading; 68% at grade level math. The goals are 88% and 86% respectively. If any group of students don’t end up meeting the goal set for several years down the road, then no set of expectations were “insultingly” low. They could very well end up being laughably high. One suspects that state level educators at all states are overly ambitious in their extrapolations for historically low-achieving student groups. We’ve now had a decade of NCLB and manical focus on standardized tests and gap closure. Minority students have gained in some regards (here is a presentation on Florida state level statistics for grade level proficiency – “grade level” is a score of 3 on the state’s FCAT 2.0 test).
Just one example of the trend. Each year from 2001 to 2011, the percentage of Florida’s black students scoring the lowest level on the grade level exams has declined quite substantially. But it seems to be nearing a plateau and not all that close to Florida’s white student performance. The year over year changes are 6, 4, 6, 3, 3, 2, 1, 2, 1, 0. Minority and poor students probably did see vast improvements – high returns to scale – in the first half decade of NCLB and standardized testing regimens, but those returns seem to be dissipating. Hopefully the states are extrapolating properly; we’d hate to fall short of our expectations.
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curious that asians are missing from this graph? are there no asians in florida or are liberals afraid that not all minorities need coddling like blacks and hispanics ?
Asians need different coddling. Asian men don’t get laid. How surprising that white women who want to prove their Anti-Racism always seek Black men instead of Asian men!!!
Not having the opportunity to go to a school that has AP courses – which give you the opportunity to earn a 5.0 on a 4.0 scale – is a legitimate, calculable disadvantage that needs to be adjusted for. There are myriad others.
Do you actually understand what the Blacks and Latinos are talking about? Like specifically? Or have you just decided it’s all irrelevant and tuned it all out because you insist on believing there’s an equal playing field when all the evidence is to the contrary.
The answer to that is pretty obvious from this pitiful, butthurt rant of yours
White people have two options: respect affirmative action or allow every child free access to Dalton, Horace Mann, and every other ridiculous private school. Then we won’t be able to complain as all children will receive the same education.
I’d love to get rid of private schools altogether. Then rich white people in cities would have to send their kids to city schools along with everyone else and care enough about them to make the schools well-funded.
Why cant Affirmative Actions detractors just admit they hate it because:
1- Any advantage taken away from their demographic (whites) hurts them economically, even if its an unfairly given advantage
2- They just flat out disfavor black people and/or other minorities?
Do you really think the supreme court, with 2 members who were part of pro-white/anti-immigrant/anti-integration clubs in law school are taking up the issue purely out of social and legal considerations for AA? Especially when the last ruling was just 10 years ago? Of course not.
The truth is that sadly a lot of people refuse to accept the numerous and statistically proven facets of white privilege in America. We live in a nation where, right now, a white convict with a high school diploma is more likely to get a job than a black college graduate. Where black graduate degree holders make roughly the same amount as white high school graduates. And thats not even getting into the drug war and how its been tailed to target african americans and latinos.
The same people that will rage against ‘quota’s (which is not what AA is in admissions) will openly defend ‘not hiring Jamal because he doesnt fit into the ‘culture’ around here’ or ‘tossing Shaquitas application because anyone with a name like that must be ghetto’.
It’s useful to look at contemporary American politics as a coming to a head of her two founding worldviews: the northern puritan’s belief in managed progress, and the southern plantationer’s belief in unrestrained economic activity. (The latter also has the western frontiersman as its offshoot, though still animated by an unconstrained economic vision.
Those two things clashed during the civil war, as the South’s desire to seed black slave laborers throughout the territories came to an irreconcilable conflict with the North’s religiously-flavored rejection of this economically-sensible but aesthetically repellent plan. Glory, Glory Hallelujah.
This conflict is still alive as an increasingly irreconcilable culture war between the libs vs the cons.
One thing has changed since the civil war, though. The northern Puritan went insane. We call that “The Sixties.”
The northern vision of managed progress consolidated its victory in the New Deal. They, aka the Left, were still rational agents then, in their engineering of workers’ prosperity, development of infrastructure, minimalist attention (from the actual power-that-be, not from fringe Boston societies) to the Negro and feminist question, and most significantly… eugenics.
The Sixties with their Civil Rights and the Nineties with their Political Correctness are a departure from the rational old left. The new left, aka contemporary liberals, are — I mean this literally — mad. They still call themselves “progressive,” but in their denial of imperical facts and feverish desire to flood the country with blacks and browns for utopian (rather than economic) reasons, they are in practice Regressives.
This is why Cord Jefferson is their spokesman and HBD-denialism is their anti-imperical faith.
The left’s environmentalism and its Waffen-PP paramilitary are their remaining artifacts of the old rational progressives.
Interestingly by the way: the alt-Right, including all of us, as well as Auster, Stormfront, Ron Paul supporters, et al, are for the most part NOT exclusively heirs to south’s vision of unconstrained economic activity. Some of us including Chuck are driven by an ideal of libertarian economics; and many of us have solid redneck bona-fides; I’ve described the alt-right as a resurrected old right, but at least half of the alt-Right is essentially pre-sixties Puritans. In other words, we’re in string measure rational Progressives.
Anti-racist- you would certainly hold firm to the idea that blacks are superior in fast-twitch muscle, but you can’t accept the fact that white are superior in abstract thinking. Either persistent genetic differences exist or they don’t.
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I hinted on that by my remarks about Asians. But I give to anti-racist that the playing-field isn’t level. It hurts poor whites as well. Maybe private schools have to be abolished.
Please, anti-racist, explain to us what Blacks and Latinos are talking about. I doubt that it includes the opportunity to go to a school with AP courses.
Now ask yourself why a hypothetical small company employer (small, because large companies are effectively forced to use quotas/affirmative action – in practice they are the same thing, pal) would want to hire Jamal or Shaquita over any equally qualified white or asian. Jamal and Shaquita’s degrees were probably obtain through quo – er, affirmative action – so in reality they are probably not as qualified as applicants Chad and Brittney; I’ll have to walk on eggshells around them because any PERCEIVED racism on my part will create problems; once hired I cannot easily fire them if they turn out to be unqualified or incompetent because that would be PERCEIVED as racism; in short, the potential costs of hiring Jamal/Shaquita outweigh their probable benefits. Let’s just go with Chad/Brittney and avoid the hassle. “White privilege” is a function of black and (to a lesser extent) Latino dysfunction. Until you and all self-righteous “anti-racists” grasp that fact and do something to turn it around (something other than hyperventilating about “racism” and “white privilege”), blacks and Latinos will always be “underprivileged.”
PA- the New England abolitionists hated slavery and loved blacks as a matter of religion. The free soil whites of the Midwest didn’t care about slavery, as long as it was restricted to the South, and didn’t care about blacks one way or another, other than thinking they would be better off being sent back to their homeland. Free soil whites did not want economic competition and social and political domination from slaveholders. They did not want to be around any blacks, slave or free, for reasons which are now obvious. The Kansas free state constitution prohibited slavery, but it also prohibited black settlement, as did the constitutions of several other free states. The Civil War solved the problem of both slavery in the North and West and black settlement in the North and West until the labor shortage of WWI and then the 1925 immigration act spurred employers to bring blacks north as cheap labor.
Employers still have the right to test for marijuana in washington and colorado. Weed will be legal, but it will be treated like booze. You can’t show up to work stoned, you can’t smoke a joint in public, no driving while stoned, etc etc..
Addressing anti-racist rationally makes you look foolish. It’s like patiently explaining to some guy why he in fact must remove his hand from under your girlfriend’s sweater.
Good-faith engagement of a bad-faith players inspires contempt in the bad-faith player.
And if you push him with all that logic, he may call his buddies from Promoting Justice.
Affirmative action was why it was harder for me (Asian/Pacific Islander) to get into college, since they didn’t want to accept “too many” A/PI people…
Err- that was to anti-racist way above…
if you are truly Asian?Pacific Islander then you should ally yourself with People of Color and not the white patriarchy
But, do Asian/Pacific Islanders girls also CRAVE black men?
Why does “anti-racist” sometimes sound like a white SWPL who got his Film degree at a Northeastern liberal arts college and sometimes like a retarded black guy from Atlanta? Seriously, this really fascinates me. And is he getting into legendary troll status here – he’s been doing this for about two years now.
For something deemed “soft bigotry,” this sure seems pretty hard.
Just as the victims of the so-called “Southern Strategy” were white people, not blacks, so it is with scheme. This is just a plan to label c and d level black performance as b and a level achievement. It isn’t about bringing blacks up, it’s about passing them along with fake grades. The victims are the rest of us, not blacks.
There might be some hope for blacks if we could take over their schools and run them like a boot camp. They also should be taught correct American history, not one that allows them to wallow in their victim complex.
-if you are truly Asian?Pacific Islander then you should ally yourself with People of Color and not the white patriarchy-
Yeah, you won’t get mugged, or killed or anything. Besides, maybe if the ‘boos hang out with dem Chinese folk, good grades will rub off an’ shit…
We live in a nation where, right now, a white convict with a high school diploma is more likely to get a job than a black college graduate.
The white convict is also more than likely smarter than the black college graduate (note: a college degree means nothing anymore), very likely to work harder and more responsibly (e.g. show up on reality time, not on “black people’s time”), infinitely more likely to take orders and engage in unpleasant tasks without complaint or accusations, and less likely to steal from his employer, even if he’s a convict.
Why does “anti-racist” sometimes sound like a white SWPL who got his Film degree at a Northeastern liberal arts college and sometimes like a retarded black guy from Atlanta? Seriously, this really fascinates me.
Ha ha! I feel the same way. I’ve read enough of his blather now to think the white SWPL scenario is the more likely one. Anti-racist is a white minstrel in black-face.
“The white convict is also more than likely smarter than the black college graduate”
White kids from lowest 10% income homes score better on SATs than black kids from top 10% income homes (including black kids adopted by wealthy whites).
White kids whose parents are high school graduates score better on SATs than black kids whose parents are phds.
Booker T Washington had it right: uplift blacks via trades. WEB Dubois wanted to hang black hopes on the Talented Tenth, which ain’t all that, as it turns out.
PA’s 10:35 AM comment was a good one.
This line further down, on the other hand :
It’s like patiently explaining to some guy why he in fact must remove his hand from under your girlfriend’s sweater.
While PA is correct in the assessment of what the useless and inferior anti-racist really is, PA simultaneously exposes his whiteknight nature. So the girlfriend is not responsible for LETTING the man do that? She is not an adult who owes her boyfriend the respect of swatting that other man away? Have you learned NOTHING from 4 years of Roissy? Sheeesh….
As Brendan always says, PA is a whiteknight first and foremost. Woman-worship is the core belief of white-nationalists, and why they tend to be omegas.
Funny how black racists (anti-racist) and white nationalists (PA) quickly bring out the sorry nature of each other, partly due to their similarities.
Not just omegas, tards as well.
http://oogenhand.wordpress.com/2012/11/11/losers-like-to-be-photographed/
Nikos the Faggot is awesome. I can’t resist responding to him because I am amused by people who put so much thought into the PA character. Thanks faggot
oh, we all know you are.
PS: Nikos, why did you stop using the “Anthropomous” handle?
The America you guys knew is never coming back and that is a very good thing. First, the country will become truly diverse. Next, the country will become more egalitarian. Finally, the country will become more prosperous. Diverisity, equality, prosperity: this trinity will lead the USA to a true golden age.
Because of immigration and disparate birth rates the USA is becoming a multihued, multicultural, multireligious nation. No more will white be the defualt; People of Color will soon be the overwhemling majority and bring with them thier insights and sensuality. This knew divserity will bring with it different cultures that are more community based and cooperative than the traditonal stodgy and selfish european cultures. While, historically, the USA was under the iron hand of an oppressive Christian theocracy the future will see more peaceful, tolerant religions, such as Islam, gain a large share of the spiritual market. Different races, cultures, and reigions will make the USA more vibrant and dynamic.
The new Americans will work to make sure that equality is achieved in the new America. Initially, People of Color will take over the institutions and wrest power from the privileged white establishment. Next, once in power, the People will pass legislation which will insure that those living the rish white life will pay their fair share to society. The reslut will be that everyone gets a fair shake and no group is given a leg up at birth like white males curently are. Equality of outcomes will be reached once People of Color take control of the institutions and force the privielged white males to pay their historical debt to the People.
America is on the cusp of an age of unprecendented prosperity. The presence of different cultures, races, and religions make the country more attractive to trade, since the nation is no longer run by racist babydick white boys. The new equality will lead to a broader stronger tax base from which to draw funds. The People also bring with them different ideas and innovations which will jolt America out of its malaise. More trade, more taxpayers, and more creativity will make the USA an economic powerhouse.
white America is old and dying. The real Americans are young and vibrant. The People of Color will create a new country that is diverse, equitable, and rich. Unlike the piece of dogcrap founding fathers, the new Americans will seek justice and dispense wisdom. The new dawn is upon us and the sweet waters of liberty quench our thirst for freedom while the winds of change will be ever at our backs!
“The real Americans are young and vibrant.”
Ah, Detroit…
Brilliant, anti-racist, brilliant! A magnum opus so staggeringly wrong-headed, and taking such delight in it, that the only logical conclusion is that you’re just another silly old racis’ HBD type (like me!) trying to create a black straw man for the rest of us to beat on. Your cant is just too pat to be anything else. It stinks of insincerity.
So I get what you’re trying to do, and I appreciate the effort. But all puppet shows get boring pretty quickly, and yours is no exception. We get it, we get it. The parody was spot on, but you’ve overstayed your welcome. Enough.
One thing I can never tell when I read stuff like this is whether or not these people are actually being serious. They can’t REALLY believe that they’re going to have 100% of students proficient in reading by 2023, can they? What they’re saying is that, although there have been stupid people who can’t do well in school since at least the dawn of history, within the next eleven years, they’re going to figure out how to change that.
Even countries like Finland and Japan don’t have 100% of their students reading at their grade level.
So you would think they must realize that their goals are impossible, right? But then, why say it? I mean, I understand the idea of having lofty goals to impress the voters, but why does this only seem to happen in education? When a city gets a new police chief, you never hear him say that he’s going to bring the crime rate down to zero. You never hear someone who starts a new anti-drug program say that they’re going to completely eliminate drug use. Nobody would believe them if they did, of course, but why do people believe they’re going to be able to do it in education?
Speaking of reading proficiency, it’s funny that anti-racist sometimes claims that his wealthy parents paid for his expensive education, and other times, admits that he’s basically illiterate (like here: http://glpiggy.net/2012/11/08/turnout-links/#comments). So it’s possible that he just can’t keep the biographical details of his online persona straight, but it’s also possible that there’s just more than one guy. He might actually be both a SWPL who went to film school AND a black guy from Atlanta. Living in the same house, sharing the same computer. Who knows? He’s always talking about how much white women love Men Of Color. Maybe SWPL liberal arts students do too?
you mean like brazil?
Anti-racist has got to be the most successful troll I’ve ever seen. His alter-ego Promoting Justice (who always posts within 10 minutes of anti-racist) is pretty good too.
Hilarious discussion. Part of me wants to think that anti-r is Steve Sailer messing with us, since, as I mentioned on Half Sigma, his Disqus profile is linked to a Twitter account (inactive) labeled “WUT WUT” with the username “SailMyAss”
http://disqus.com/stevesailer/
But I seriously doubt it’s Steve. Anyway, I won’t mind if GLP gets bored with the trolling and blocks him at some point.
Blacks are not as intelligent as people of other races because their brains weigh 120 grams on average less than the average weight of the brains of other races.
This was illustrated in Dr. Samuel Morton’s 1830s “Crania Americana,” a masterful tome that was itself the basis of a system-wide academic refutation by Jew social scientist Stephen Jay Gould in his 1980 “Mismeasure of Man,” which was completely demolished last year by scientists from Berkley and other top universities.
The negro brain is physiologically different from the white brain: one need only look at the profile of the skull of a full-blooded african, to observe a skull slope of approximately 72 degrees, compared to 82-85 degrees for whites, and 60 degrees for the common orangutan.
When Euros first showed up in Sub Saharan Africa, they had never seen a primate before: monkeys, apes and guerillas were unknown to our Euro and Roman forebears, yet they were ubiquitous in Black Africa. It is no wonder then, when Euros came across a curious, ape-like hominid that sort of looked like them but didn’t even have the wheel (pre-Stone Age, let’s call it Stick Age), they mistook these “people” for a species entirely separate form the rest of mankind.
Blacks need to understand and accept the biological basis for differences in cognitive ability across the races.
- Arturo
My parents, whom I still live wit, paid for my college. I have a useless liberal arts degree but did not learn anything. I was never that bright. I have made this clear on numerous occassions.
Please do not block me Chuck. This is my only source of human contact. I don’t have friends and am not good at anythong
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