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Camille Paglia, one of my favorite subjects of discussion. And yes, she really has it in for Streep.
Lefties despise her. Back in the early 90s she was getting death threats over her date-rape scepticism. Now, they rip her for global warning scepticism. It would be interesting to get her talking about rightle counter-thought to prevailing liberal ideology. A few years ago (dont know if she still does) she ran a column on Salon in the format of Q&A from her readers. It appeared at the time that her notion of conservatism was that it’s conventional, party-line Bush/GOP pro-war cheerleading.
So I wonder is she’s aware of the new conservatism that is the alt-Right — with its sophisticated arguments about traditionalism, immigration, race, men’s rights, etc. In other words, how woudl she engage Auster or Heartiste?
(As I like to point out whenever subject comes up, I met Paglia in the late 90s and had a nice conversation with her. She was very delightful to talk with.)
Like Rand Paglia has a lot of testosterone running through her creating a strong desire for an alpha male strong enough to dominate her. No half men will do, she’d rather fuck actual women. The strong desire for alpha makes rejecting the Daddy party wholesale impossible.
I agree with Paglia on the lost glam of Hollywood. In the ’90s, it might have been Sharon Stone and that was all that realized the classy sex appeal image, and even then it was fleeting (Paglia has mentioned Stone being Liz Taylor-esque). While Paglia and her ilk were a counterwave to the radical feminists, didn’t the feminists surrender of integrity during the Clinton-Lewinsky debacle hurt them as well? To spend decades crying about sexual harassment, which peaked with the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings, only to turn around within 5 years and defend a 50+ yr old man cigar banging a 20-something solely because he was a democrat revealed their false stance of seeking change and protection for women. The feminists shouted about Sen. Bob Packwood being a sexual predator, but cheerleaded and defended Bubba, revealing their political reality of Dem attack dogs for gender issues. If I recall correctly, some feminists even liked the Lewinsky issue as they said it was a new development in feminisim of women using sexual powers to get what they want.
Christina Hoff Sommers also did great work in exposing how the feminist movement went from equality to superiority really quick and used the education system to do so. She sounded like a voice of reason in ’90s gender relation roundtable discussions. Her concerns 15 years ago about the direction of the education system with regards to boys have proven to be true.
Maher’s PI was far superior to his current HBO schtick. It’s like the cancellation off of network made him morbitter and less jovial. There was a strong element of mocking the absurdity of the modern era on PI, which is not present on Real Time as it is solely liberal propaganda and crocodile humor.
Ah yes, Paglia at her peak.
Here’s a review of Paglia’s latest book at Counter-Currents:
http://www.counter-currents.com/2012/10/camille-paglias-glittering-images/
i am so old i purchased this episode of PI on videotape after watching it in real time
what’s even better but not available anywhere i can find online yet was her firing line debate with Wm F Buckley on feminism
Thanks for reminding me that for a brief moment, feminism almost embraced reality. Unfortumately, the power of identity politics was to tempting to be ignored.
Laguna’s “Counter Currents” article is well-worth the read for its look back at Paglia’s classic “Sexual Personae”.
The article reminded me that Paglia is familiar and sympathetic to right wing talk radio. While I’ve never really listened to it so I can’t say how much of its implicitly-white populism is just a specie of rah-rah GOP patriotardism. Thus it would be interesting to know Paglia’s familiarity with principled alt-Right, which as we know parts ways with conventional Republican conservatism on many fronts.
As I’ve noted previously, alt-Right itself is a synthesis of ideas promoted by Paglia as well as by Pat Buchanan, in a way a paganized (post-Christain?) rebirth of the defeated Old Right.
Paglia’s worldview is fundamentally Catholic. This is why she tends to get along so well with figures on the alt-right. She believes in objective Reality, the existence of distinct male and female natures, and accepts that reality and human nature put limits on our choices. She also believes in free will and the necessity of accepting responsibility for “breaking the rules.”
Paglia loves to break the rules, but she never pretends that the rules do not exist. She certainly doesn’t expect people to “accept” her ideas and lifestyle as equivalent to that of her pious Catholic sibling. She’s deviant and proud of it, but has no difficulty recognizing the good in a traditional moral lifestyle. (After all, if everyone were deviant, what would be the fun in it…and how would society survive to allow the enjoyment of deviance in the future?)
My first impression was, wow, Maher’s got a ton more confidence now than 17 years ago. And much more bitterness.
dana 11/25/2012 at 10:57 am
i am so old i purchased this episode of PI on videotape after watching it in real time what’s even better but not available anywhere i can find online yet was her firing line debate with Wm F Buckley on feminism
Here’s a transcript. You’ll have to enlarge the text:
A Firing Line Debate: Resolved: That the Women’s Movement Has Been Disastrous
http://www.scribd.com/doc/98897909/Arianna-Huffington-on-the-Firing-Line-Feminism-1994
bjk,
exactly what i thought. he was way more humble then. i’d always liked him up until about 4 years ago – back when he was on ABC and CC.
I saw Paglia speak maybe 5 years ago in San Francisco, pushing a book about poetry I think. It was a jam packed room with a very respectful, mostly female crowd in attendance.
Yea mid-90s appeared to be her peak, especially in her political role. I recall her (really) brief cameo in the It’s Pat movie, oddly enough for someone that defends clear cut gender roles.
Bill Maher was funny up until Religulous came out. He was mean to people who were nice to him, which made him look like a jerk.
Lara – An interesting thing about Maher is that he was raised in a home with a split religious background where the parents seemed to have a religious stand off on how to raise him and didnt resolve it well. Go figure that as an adult, Maher is super anti-religious.
Plus, he looks like Joe Camel. That’s a reason to be bitter.
It’s interesting to see Bill Maher, of all people, push the Red Pill in this 2002 interview recently uploaded to youtube:
youtube.com/watch?v=Tl69E-0FwyI
For all of Bill Maher’s supposed hatred of religion, I remember him becoming very defensive when he had someone on his show who was critical of Israel. I believe it was one of the authors of the book The Israel Lobby.
I don’t really mind Bill Maher’s ridicule of white, religious, middle America. No group is above that.
Hollen, have you not seen his comedy tour from a few years ago with a bit on feminism?