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If I were going to eat some ghastly fast-food pizza, I would go to Papa John’s just to support them. But I’m never going to eat ghastly fast-food pizza. I want an America without fast food, and with 150 million fewer people. If I get these things, they will occur at roughly the same time.
There is no “n” in “restaurateur.”
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/restaurateur?s=t
Interesting Chuckie. I congratulate you.
” …a few leading lights take the heat for “radical” stances so that the tide will rise for the entire group. It’s called “raising awareness”.
That is exactly what is occuring in WN. And those few guide the masses, like a 4×4 towing a glacier.
Classic – Derb even provides a link, as if we wouldn’t believe him otherwise. It’s DERB, for cryin’ out loud.
hahaha Rye bread…
just like global warming, us victims of miscegenation are causing your glacier to melt…
Chuckster, y’might like this…
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/exhibitionist/2012/07/porn_health_care_obamacare.php
If being publicly opposed to Obamacare actually made a business owner and his business look bad in the eyes of customers or potential customers, Yglesias would not be advising him to stop it.
This is like the democrats who say the republicans need to cozy up to hispanics — completely disingenuous and should be dismissed out of hand. Of course everything Yglesias says should be dismissed out of hand.
Chic fil a’s incredibly mild statement against gay marriage generated a ton of support for the business.
good call. the same people saying that Papa Johns et al are suffering had similar reads on Chic-fil-a which, by most accounts, did not suffer from the backlash against it. http://www.brandindex.com/article/chick-fil-takes-hit-fast-food-eaters
Peter Schiff on the value of college:
http://www.nationalreview.com/phi-beta-cons/334275/bartenders-bas-nathan-harden
Chic-fil-a’s mild statement about gay marriage? The guy believes we are bringing Gods judgement down with all these fairies getting married, basically we are going to suffer the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah because of these homos, that’s mild? Then he turns right around and says , Oh but we love the homos. Puhleaze, I don’t love people who are bringing the wrath of God down on me, I actually don’t like them and wish they would leave. Typical right wing/Tea Party/Republican duplicity.
Most of what I’ve read from the restaurant owners doesn’t pass the smell test. The fact is the restaurants have gotten away with shabby treatment of employees since, forever I spose.
If they don’t have insurance, when they require medical treatment we all end up paying to cover them unless they pay themselves and since I don’t see no doctors or nurses curtailing their rate of increase in salaries, paying themselves becomes less and less tenable for most treatments. Also with insurance they’re able to get preventive care and such.
The free market won’t solve the problem. I know this because It Didn’t Solve The Problem. Healthcare really doesn’t fit into the free market. Obamacare is a very flawed solution but it’s something. If the republicans could ever learn to give just a passing interest in common people, they could have had productive input and maybe we would have something actually useful. They didn’t because truthfully, they really don’t care and this is what we’re left with.
So in the end, there won’t be as many $5 extra large pizzas to go around, they’ll be $6, oh the humanity. America will be tremendously better off.
This episode is example 8,000 of why liberals love big business. It is far easier to shake a big company down, pressure just one company or fundraise from one firm. The Obama admins actions with BP after the BP oil spill were abominable as Obama took millions from BP but when they ahd their spill and the industryw as shut down in the Gulf per Obama’s roders, he froced them to set up a fund for paying shut down workers. It’s far easier to target one big employer than a network of smaller shops. If all the small pizza places of America acted the same as Papa John’s has, there’s no way the left could demonize them and force them to alter their public stance.
The intended and unintended consequences of:
1. Fed, state and local desire to reduce their white workforce, and
2. Political desires to reward blacks for their loyalty by giving them sinecures
will lead to a powderkeg (pun intended.)
Blacks expend most of their creative energies on corruption and where their next fuck is coming from. Whites expend it on getting even.
S_McCoy, is this really how liberal gays think? Fascinating…
1) First off, you are worried about the “wrath of god?” What the kind of liberal are you? Aren’t you supposed to be atheist? I am a REAL atheist which means I don’t worry about god at all. I don’t care what any Christian says about my chances of going to heaven. Why do you?
Seems to me if you were really worried about god’s wrath, or Christians talking bad about you, you wouldn’t support abortion either. But now it’s gay marriage that is your final protective line? hahaha…
2) “The fact is the restaurants have gotten away with shabby treatment of employees since, forever I spose.” Yeah, you know why employers can treat employees badly? Because of liberal policies – excessive taxation, regulation and IMMIGRATION. Because of taxation and regulation, it’s very difficult for anyone to open a new business, therefore it’s an employer’s market – too many waiters chasing too few (decent) jobs. In a healthy economy, if you don’t like your job you flip em the bird and move on to another one. When nobody is opening new businesses, I guess you have to eat the shit sandwich and grit your teeth. Plus excessive immigration means you can be replaced by a cheaper Mexican pretty easily. Thanks, liberals!
3) “when they require medical treatment we all end up paying to cover them unless they pay themselves” …and you were so unhappy about that, you voted for Obamacare so now you have to pay even MORE to cover EVERYBODY.
4) “I don’t see no doctors or nurses curtailing their rate of increase in salaries.” Healthcare costs, just like college tuitions, will go up the more the government subsidizes them. Besides, would you voluntarily reduce your salary to help get your company’s products to people? Doubt it.
5) “The free market won’t solve the problem. I know this because It Didn’t Solve The Problem. Healthcare really doesn’t fit into the free market.” Healthcare has not been a free market for a long time. Medicare, Medicaid, prescription drug plans…all are government instrusions into the free market, distorting prices and causing shortages. Obamacare is the final nail in the coffin of USA healthcare.
6) “If the republicans could ever learn to give just a passing interest in common people, they could have had productive input.” The Democrats do not allow productive input from Republicans. That’s kinda the point of a one-party dictatorship.
a_peraspera, thank you for the reply to S_McCoy. I was irked by his parade of talking-point inanity, but then I just felt too listless to bother with it. What’s the point? He won’t change.
Still, nice to see you set him straight. Though the problem with Lefty talking points is they are all based on false assumptions, and to really unpack even a single sentence can take hours. This is the power of Newspeak after all. You promote an utter lie as truth, and then that “truth” is assumed by the bulk of the populace. Try to counter that truth quickly and you’re passed off as a nutjob. Try to really dismantle it and you fall down a rat hole of false assumptions within false assumptions within lies within misinformation. No wonder the Orcs are winning so handily. Control the narrative and you control the society.
As a final nose tweak to S_McCoy, I will offer the delightful bon mot: “You think health care is expensive now? Wait until it’s free.” Unpack that brother, unpack that.
This is just pro Obama care agit-prop designed to use FUD to reduce corporate responses to the legislation. Its a pretty transparent attempt to convince them it will hurt them more to resist than to bend over and take it.
The free market won’t solve the problem.
I’ve been on a kick lately about watching TV series from before my time. Recently watched Season 1 of Marcus Welby. It’s interesting to see how the culture treated various issues back in the day. I bring this up because it was quite normal to see Dr. Welby’s patients dropping by and forking over cash to pay their medical bills, talking about paying cash for hospital treatment and not hearing any mention of medicaid, HMOs and such which still hadn’t permeated deeply into the culture. There was also the evident taint of liberal scriptwriters as they injected leftist social issues into the show but they didn’t seem to bother with the issue of people wanting their medical care for free.
Yeah, there are problems with using old TV dramas (how common were house calls in real life back then?) instead of historical records as the vehicle to look into the past, but it’s still an eye-opener into the how things were, at least on TV, in the past. As a_peraspera noted, the health care field hasn’t intersected with the free market for a very long time.
That’s really what conservatives think isn’t it? That Marcus Welby was an accurate reflection of reality. I guess that would explain the poor reading comprehension.
That’s really what conservatives think isn’t it?
Are you a moron? What part of ” . .there are problems with using old TV dramas . . “ escapes your comprehension? Not one part of my comment indicates that TV is a reflection of reality.
Of course TV is not an accurate reflection of reality, look at how often we see black physicists and black police captains and black wise men in offices of great importance, or 100 lb women cops beating down 200 lb men. It would be great if we could depict people and populations as we really encounter them in our lives. The point is that a by looking into the window of the past we can get a glimpse of what animated our cultural “leaders”. People stopping by a doctor’s office to pay their medical bill is treated as a routine matter. There were no calls, at least in that season, for medical care to be provided for “free” and considering the long history of Hollywood and liberalism, it’s odd that health care was treated just like a consumer product and not some inviolate human right.