A woman who wrote a piece about growing up with guns and then being held hostage by an ex-boyfriend with a gun has written a piece that made its way to various “social justice” websites including The Good Men Project. The following is a conversation between the woman and her husband:
“We will never, ever, ever have guns in this house. Ever.”
I’m not going to say I was surprised, but I was mostly amused. He must have been thinking I was talking about a hand-gun or an assault weapon or something—I just called it a Winchester over-and-under, and he must not have really processed what that meant.
“It’s just a shotgun,” I explained carefully, thinking that would clear things up nicely.
“Never, ever, ever,” he repeated.
Well, okay. It was a gut-check reaction; that was obvious. He hadn’t grown up around guns, and he’d spent a lot of his time advocating for assault weapon bans. He wasn’t able to put this in perspective right away, so I’d just patiently explain it to him.
“Honey, it’s not a Glock. It’s just a shotgun. It’s the ideal home defense weapon, because it makes a loud sound when you load it, and the spread is—”
This is where it gets good:
“What if you killed someone in our house?” he shot back, not letting me finish.
I blinked. Several times.
“Well. I mean. There’s a lot of ritual and meditation that goes into loading a shotgun, so it’s kind of hard to accidentally kill the postman…”
“I’m not talking about that; I’m talking about what if you killed some poor kid that broke in to steal our television? I’d never forgive you!”
Wow. What a sentence, right? Fraught, pregnant with meaning.
We don’t live in a traditionally “great” neighborhood. Our blue-collar working-class neighborhood is pretty low for violent crime, but it’s high for theft and such. And I was alone, a lot, both the year before and the year after we were married.
“Luke, I…well I’d have to assume…if someone did break into our house while I was here, I’d have to assume that they were there to do me harm. I mean, you just have to make that assumption. Would you rather me be dead or the kid that broke into our house?”
It was obvious by his silence who he’d prefer, and so I spent the next two nights in the guest room.
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Good, good. The interesting thing is that while the liberal doesn’t like guns, he has no issue with ZOG using “assault” weapons. They push the company line in Waco and Ruby Ridge. I see very little libbie resistance to NYC and DC’s ring of steel surveillance systems.
But this is all a portion of the seperation of the herd. As we’ve said for a long while, WN is a civil war between whites; liberals want to commit suicide but don’t want to jump off the cliff alone.
Most liberals against gun control live in areas where the threat of violent crime is extremely low. These same people send their children to lily white public schools, or expensive private schools, so they’re all for school busing and other similar programs. They went to elite universities, and have high paying jobs and know how to raise their kids to get into the best colleges, (the private schools or above average public ones helps as does the tutoring and extra-curriculars they have there kids do), so they have no problem with affirmative actions, because, hey, there kid isn’t going to be bothered by it, not like the blue collar white trash they look down on and who has to compete harder on his own without the extra support more knowledgeable and wealthier parents provide. These are the same people who have no problem with woman in the infantry, because they and there kids will never have to fight a war. On every left-wing issue they support, they are protected. They have no skin in the game, as it were. But the peons, fuck them. Better that all the good liberals feel better about themselves for promoting bad social policy than worry about the harm this brings to the masses, even the particular groups they claim to care so much about.
“On every left-wing issue they support, they are protected”
This is true on the part of upper class liberals, or the so-called professional left. But these articles, personal essays, and general Salon/Kos commentariat are written by people who are no more secure than lower class whites. Less so in fact in some ways.
So what gives? I don’t think Ryu is being purely metaphorical in calling libs a suicide cult.
Another explanation: I’ve described young SWPLs (or Paul Fussel’s “Class X”) as aspirants to upper class, in many cases tragically unrealistic aspirants. Their ranks include college graduates with debt, unmarketable degrees, and few professional connections. They fully identify with liberalism in hopes of joining the professional left, where they will have both status and security.
“…being held hostage by an ex-boyfriend with a gun.”
Further evidence of American women’s excellent taste when it comes to choosing boyfriends. And as if that weren’t enough…
“What if you killed some poor kid who broke in to steal our television. I’d never forgive you.”
Or, what’s more likely the case, what would happen if he shot her bad-boy lover sneaking in through the back window, mistaking him for a thief?
“I slept the next two nights in the guest-room.”
He should have had her spending the next two days scrubbing the kitchen floor.
Remember the case a year or 2 ago about the woman who shot 2 guys who were slowly and methodically breaking into her isolated home in Oklahoma, where she was alone with her baby ?
I often browse european (french) sites and I can never get used to how so many euro lefties believe in neither self defense, nor even the defense of helpless family members.
One sickening french woman wrote that she’d never be able to face her child if she ever had to kill someone to protect said child. She was clearly saying that she’d have her child killed by a “victim of society” rather than engage in violence.
From what i read on lefty sites, there are still a few leftards in the usa who do believe in the right to bear arms and who merely want to ban the assault weapons and not all guns. A common talking point among them is that “no one’s saying ban all guns!”.
Well, not too many people are saying it now but give msnbc, gawker and the rest of that gang a few years and they can probably make the “moderate” left position on guns a thing of the past.
I tried to read the entire article. So much emotional drivel. The fact of the matter is that Progs want to restrict gun rights based on emotional reactions. They are true tyrants.
I can’t get through that article either. It’s a bunch of self absorbed rambling. I am starting to think some of these female writers intentionally go out with losers to have something to write about.
Any woman who cares more about a TV thief than her husband deserves to be alone.
This is just SWPL preening. It’s just the Good White People showing off by distinguishing themselves from the “redneck”/creationist/BibleBelt/anti immigrant/meat eating/pickup driving/gun lover crowd.
“What if you killed some poor kid who broke in to steal our television. I’d never forgive you.”
Ask Kelly McGillis and Fran Drescher about that senario.
Hitting them back.
A blogger named Christopher Fountain posted the names, addresses, and phone numbers of the Journal-News staff that published names and addresses of gun owners, starting with editor Cyndee Royle.
http://christopherfountain.wordpress.com/tag/cynthia-lambert-journal-news-editor/
Rich White liberals like Cuomo, Bloomberg, Rahm, etc have BODYGUARDS and other powerful forms of security in their lily white/good Asian neighborhoods.
They are hardly exposed to the Trayvon Martins of the world on a daily basis and don’t live near Hispanic/Black ghettos.
It’s all some sick conspiracy to kill those white hillybilly rednecks, white trash who they hate.
I mean seriously… Adam Lanza is white trash? He looks like he would have been a friend of Mark Zuckerberg (who married an Asian woman).
@Eric, MyName: i think you have the roles reversed in that He-She discussion (understandable mistake, since women are more likely to be anti-gun). The woman wanted the shotgun, but her “man” forbade it.
@ogunsiron: the exact mechanism is that if an AWB passes, there will be another mass shooting, which of course will require more restrictive legislation, etc.
AR10308: it’s worse than that. They do want to ban guns because they are tyrants. But it isn’t an emotional reaction – they just happen to press hardest when they think the emotional reactions of the public at large may allow them to achieve a measure of “progress.”
They eagerly await a pile of bodies that they can demagogue, they delight in the blood of children because it gives them an opportunity to pursue a goal that they could never achieve through honest and rational argument.
He can have his testicles back at the end of the semester, if he’s proven he can act responsibly.
No need for the robbers now, he’s already annihilating his family with his betatude. As heartiste would say, I can almost hear her labia seying up and clamping shut.
*drying
“We will never, ever, ever have guns in this house. Ever.”
Except for the guns the cops were carrying when they came in to rescue you. Other than that, she will never, ever have guns in her house. Ever!
I agree with the other commenter above. She made a stupid mistake in the choice of her previous boyfriend and now she expects all other males to pay.
There is nothing wrong with Glocks, M1911s, AR-15s, AK47s, pump-action shotguns, etc.
If liberals prefer to die rather than defend themselves, so be it.
But they better not expect ME to conform to their crazy ideology.
A lot of people with a reading comprehension problem around here. It’s one thing to dislike feminazi ideology, but a deep psychological need for all women to be bitches is a whole different matter.
“Georgia Boy 12/27/2012 at 10:17 pm
No need for the robbers now, he’s already annihilating his family with his betatude. As heartiste would say, I can almost hear her labia drying up and clamping shut.”
Nope, SWPL White women love beta/wimpy types. They aren’t going to run off with Billy Bob Redneck or Jamal the Gangbanger.
Don’t confuse roissy’s/CH’s homo-erotic fantasies with the desires of actual women.
The reason wimpy, neutered White guys exist is because there are White and Asian women out there who want to “partner” with them and breed with them.
Why, Rifleman, do you mean to suggest that Roissy is merely theorizing at the keyboard, fantasizing about how his assumptions would play out in the real world without actually applying them? It’s possible. After perusing some of his articles and comments, I assumed that he specializes in crass women, those who might be considered middle class by (worthless) education and (artificially inflated) income standards, but certainly not by the standards of culture and upbringing. The reason he paints with a broad brush is that mediocrity can’t see above itself.
Then again, Roissy’s flock isn’t missing much by not having a clue about what the real SWPLs finf appealing. They might be cleaner, more intelligent and unlikely to engage in the types of obnoxious behavior that is the watermark of Roissy’s social class, but they are clearly suicidal. And, of course, the feminine, intelligent, cultured women who aren’t blind liberal drones wouldn’t even be on Roissy’s radar. And men of that circle are beyond CH’s comprehension as well, obviously. If he ever bumps into this type of people in real life, they probably act graciously around the chump, but never seriously consider him for a friendship, a relationship of any other situation that would presume a reasonable degree of equality.
I call bullshit on the article! Her first boyfriend subjected her to a terrible ordeal and she did not want to press charges because she did not want him to lose his job?
I think it is made up! (Not to mention she had seems to have the ability to chose a pair of dipshits for boyfriends.)
“But these articles, personal essays, and general Salon/Kos commentariat are written by people who are no more secure than lower class whites. Less so in fact in some ways……So what gives? I don’t think Ryu is being purely metaphorical in calling libs a suicide cult”
Enervation from being culturally on top; “is-that-all-there-is?”-angst from culture’s social and civilizational victors; x-amount of whites no longer want to be alone atop the mountain, with nothing but a cold, mysterious and unforgiving universe above them and a sea of clawing, resentful lessors beneath them, separated by equal parts envy and resentment.
That explains a big part of hardcore-liberal thought amongst those ‘unprotected’ by liberal folly, IMHO; it’s a dimension routinely ignored by the alt-right and r.r. blogosphere, which —— I’m asking for it here —— is mainly prole and aspiring culturally (e.g., the author of the quoted comment above;
) and therefore immune and probably mystified by such a concern.
“But these articles, personal essays, and general Salon/Kos commentariat are written by people who are no more secure than lower class whites. Less so in fact in some ways……So what gives? I don’t think Ryu is being purely metaphorical in calling libs a suicide cult”
Enervation from being culturally on top; “is-that-all-there-is?”-angst from culture’s social and civilizational victors; x-amount of whites no longer want to be alone atop the mountain, with nothing but a cold, mysterious and unforgiving universe above them and a sea of clawing, resentful lessors beneath them, separated by equal parts envy and resentment.
That explains a big part of hardcore-liberal thought amongst those ‘unprotected’ by liberal folly, IMHO; it’s a dimension routinely ignored by the alt-right and r.r. blogosphere, which —— I’m asking for it here —— is mainly prole and aspiring culturally (e.g., the author of the quoted comment above;
) and therefore immune and probably mystified by such a concern.
You keep saying I’m “prole” and you may feel free to continue thinking this, but that is not the case.
One story I floated myself, for which I received considerable acclaim, was that the huge queues outside food shops came about because the Soviet workers were so ardent in building Socialism that they just wouldn’t rest, and the only way the government could get them to rest for even two or three hours was organizing a queue for them to stand in. I laugh at it all now, but at the time you can imagine what a shock it was to someone like myself, who had been brought up to regard liberal intellectuals as the samurai, the absolute elite, of the human race, to find that they could be taken in by deceptions which a half-witted boy would see through in an instant. I never got over that; it always remained in my mind as something that could never be erased. I could never henceforth regard the intelligentsia as other than credulous fools who nonetheless became the media’s prophetic voices, their heirs and successors remaining so still. That’s when I began to think seriously about the great liberal death wish. — Malcolm Muggeridge, “The Great Liberal Death Wish”
The whole thing: http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/MuggeridgeLiberal.php
A prole would have never thrown out his television.
“You keep saying I’m “prole” and you may feel free to continue thinking this, but that is not the case.:
FWIW, let me clarify: you’ve told me that you were a working-class immigrant from east Europe, Poland, I believe; accordingly, in replies to some of your provocative comments, I’ve suggested —– correctly or not —– what I believe is a class bias, or a critical ‘conceit,’ in some of what you appear to posit as objective truths.
I realize how that could be annoying, e.g., someone claiming that they detect a tendency in you that you yourself seem unaware of, but for the record: I don’t presume I’m correct and realize that it’s near-impossible to know the motives of any half-way complicated character. Furthermore, I certainly wasn’t implying ‘blue-collar’ in the uneducated sense, as imo you’re among the wittier intelligentsia cresting the alt-right zeitgeist. But you do seem to have a clear class/identity interest in how you identify, compare, contrast or genuflect upon NAMs and other ‘others.’ In my experieence, that is a tell-tale sign of someone white with working-class roots, and it was in that sense and that sense only that I used the term ‘prole’ (I admit a bit vaguely in this instance).
And then another tell-tale sign is your perpetual low-grade aggression, intimidation and vigilance toward ‘mudsharks’ and anything to do with interracial intimacies. lol!
A prole would have never thrown out his television.
An alt-right prole very well could; and if combined with a libertarian streak, I’d say that would be likely.
JamBelly, I’m saying roissy and his gang of sex nerds (including legendary creep Whiskey) have no interest in understanding women. They are only interested in creating a male bonding environment in which sexual resentment toward White women and their homo-erotic love of the cartoon Alpha Man is what keeps them united.
Any male who challenges their faggotry and sexual inadequacy is written off as a mangina or beta or white knight or herb. etc.
There are plenty of White women out there that like these kinds of beta dorks. These women don’t want to run off with “skittles man” or a pimp or biker or some imaginary “Game” artist who will make their “ginas tingle” with negs, aloofness and what other goofy games the sex nerds have come up with.
Roissy/CH and that crowd are to relating to real women what Star Wars and Cosplay are to the real space program, calculus and aerodynamic engineering.
It’s not about understanding reality its about escaping from it.
Pa, when a black male calls you “prole” take it as a compliment.
Black males aren’t evaluating you the way prissy White folks do.
When a black male who even knows what the hell prole means calls you one it means he thinks you might want to and be able to kick his ass. It means you have an edge to you, bit of a field nigger in ya, so to speak.
The opposite, the “liberal”, SWPL etc are the Uncle Toms and House Negroes of White folks in the black imagination. nikcrit knows the type well from being up there in the People’s Republic of Madison Wisconsin.
nikcrit thinks you might be one bad ass motherfucker, or what you folks call prole.
Prole or pussy, which way would you rather black folks characterize you?
I am third generation in my family to have a post-graduate education. Ideologically, I relate to a type that is uncommon in American tradition. Think Eastern European dissident intellectuals like A. Solzhenitsyn, Cz. Milosz, M. Kundera.
“Prole or pussy, which way would you rather black folks characterize you?”
Well, with a black punk on the subway the answer is obvious. In Nickrit’s case — a disembodied character on an internet comment thread and a civil personality — I’m ok with nuance.
“Think Eastern European dissident intellectuals like A. Solzhenitsyn, Cz. Milosz, M. Kundera.
Ok, that makes sense to me; actually, what I had in mind in my original comment was something along those lines.
I don’t equate ‘prole’ with uneducated or anti-intellectual; rather, a sort of meta financial and social circumstance that in some form you have to define yourself against or reckon with; I consider myself in that category, to the extent of not a outlier in my class, as my parents’ wealth came through their professional career, though their backgrounds are pure upper-middle class and pure working class.
By the way, re. Solzhenitsyn, I highly reccomend a book by the journalist and current New Yorker magazine editor David Remnick, ‘Ressurection,’ a chronicle of Glasnost and the Gorbachev, Yeltsin regimes of Russia in the ’80s; he interviews and prominently features Solzhenitsyn in the book, and some of the bits are hilarious:
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/03/17/books/signposts-on-russia-s-road-to-the-future.html
“nikcrit knows the type well from being up there in the People’s Republic of Madison Wisconsin.”
LMFAO!
Yeah, you got that one right; that might be the one city in which someone of my background alone is enough to get you feted like a high-ranking visiting dignitary.
Madison is a silly town and a fun town in many ways; undue deference or not, absurd is absurd.
But I still love it in many ways; there’s actually social-conservative element there that’s developed as a reaction to the extreme ‘official’ progressiveness of that city.’
Plus, everyone’s happy because everyone’s making money; biotech industry set-up shop there about ten years ago and is now reaping the benefits; actually, the tech boom of the early 90s never really ended in Madison, with all the malls filled on weekends and the nightlife districts packed. I still like to get back there a couple of times each year.
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