A worrisome trend: Washington D.C. led the nation in the percent of inbound interstate Atlas Van moving traffic for the 7th straight year.
Over the past 10 years, 68% of all movers that participated in the company’s corporate relocation survey who moved into or out of D.C. have been of the inbound orientation. Proponents of smaller government would probably like to see some cyclicality in that number and not a long inbound streak as it indicates the the government, quasi-government, or succubi firms are sending more people into the region than are being kicked out. It’s generally a bad sign for the rest of the nation and our federal budget than people are moving to that place.
It could perhaps be the case that the Feds are more likely to fund a move into the maw rather than a move out of the maw. People probably don’t get sent to the Big Show until later in their careers at which point they won’t be employed by a company that is going to fund a big move. So it might be that D.C. will always have a higher inbound bias. The federal government and military account for a quarter of all interstate moves, according to the Big Mover lobby – the American Moving and Storage Association. Moves associated with D.C. are going to tend to be inbound rather than out. But it’s still a problem that D.C. has this streak going indicating that there is an increase in the disparity.
Here is a previous look at Atlas van line moving trends.
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A much simpler and innocent explanation: many people that lived in the suburbs surrounding DC now desire to live in the city proper, even people with families. DC is much safer now than its crackhead heydey, and people are flocking to it because of the much easier commute and public transportation options, nightlife, and much bigger array of retail options now available. Even the “ghetto” areas are becoming hot property now. Kinda crazy, but a good sign I think..
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Nah. I live in the region. The city itself has tons of young white people moving in, but that’ll change after the next race riot. But the suburbs are filling up just as quickly.
It’s a sign of our transition to third world country. Go to Africa sometime. Everyone who’s anyone lives in either the government capital city or the financial capital city (many times these are the same city) and the entire rest of the country is just “flyover”, with little besides empty space and (even more) primitive people.
They are counting DC only within the district (which is a small place, really). The raw numbers are small (295 in/510 out), so this does not tell us very much.
If you go over to Roosh (and I agree with him), it’s sadly bringing in a lot of dudes to do IT contracting. The only chicks who come with this inflow are fat girls from Northern Ohio and Western PA.
They are counting DC only within the district (which is a small place, really). The raw numbers are small (295 in/510 out), so this does not tell us very much.
If it’s a small place then ~800 data points says quite a lot actually. These are also quite hard data points, someone had to actually employ their services and move to or from said location to become a data point, compared to simply answering (or refusing to answer) a pollster.
Does anyone know of a website that has data on state to state migration? A site that can show current numbers as well as the lastd ecade or twenty years?
“These are also quite hard data points, someone had to actually employ their services and move to or from said location to become a data point, compared to simply answering (or refusing to answer) a pollster.”
Its not very hard at all. Its only one moving company and the marketing and pricing of that company may be different throughout the country. The other thing is that people don’t have big living spaces in DC, so you can generally get by without a moving van.
There is a lot of residential development in DC, but you have to look at the DC suburbs carefully to see some nefarious superstate forming.
You don’t need moving stats to know that something is very wrong. Many of the richest counties in America — including THE richest — are surrounding DC. This money/power nexus is growing ever stronger, all comparisons to Mordor (with it’s all seeing eye no less) entirely appropriate.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2012/04/24/americas-richest-counties/
The BOS-WASH megalopolis is the place to for the college educated north of the Ohio River. The suburbs hold no novelty for Gen X or Y like they did for their parents, the commutes are getting longer and expensive as public transportation is on the rebound, subdivisions are increasingly filled with minorities as they get priced out by gentrification, property taxes are so cripplingly expensive in good school districts you might as well send your kid to a private school in the city, businesses are relocating back to financial centers signaling the death of the suburban office park.
As a white person who was born inside the District in 1978, and who now lives in the near Maryland suburbs, I think I can offer some perspective.
Crime has got to be a major factor. This is about DC proper after all. My parents moved out of DC shortly after I was born, because the city was no place to raise a child. My parents are not class conscious and don’t try avoid minorities per se. They just kept getting personally robbed on the street, including once at gunpoint. They lived in Northwest. My dad once was robbed of the groceries in his arms.
The murder rate at its peak (almost 500 per year in 1992 or nearly 100 per 100,000 people with DC’s population in the range of half a mil) was 5x what it is now (less than 100 for 2012). To give some perspective, there is no nation on Earth that approaches that level today, if the stats are to be believed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
DC had a crack-addicted mayor who was a national joke and he got reelected after the hilarious (in retrospect) crack sting that aired across the nation, soon after he got out of prison. Barry’s fourth term as mayor was from 1995 to 1999. (I suspect one reason most whites in DC are now Democrats is because Barry showed them that the steenkin’ Dems were the only game in town no matter what and they had to play the hand that they were dealt).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Marion_Barry_smoking_crack.gif
Yes, people have been moving in recently but remember what the baseline is. People in the recent past could be forgiven for thinking they had a Detroit on their hands.
Dan, I was born in D.C and raised in the MD suburbs too, and your “explanation” still ignores the elephant in the room. Yes, perhaps the city proper has had a large drop in crime ( I wouldn’t know; I’ve only visited twice in the past 15 years), but the formerly safe suburbs have seen a massive increase. PG county, which used to be Montgomery County’s poor white cousin, is now overwhelmingly black with correspondingly huge poverty and crime rates. The area I grew up in (in Montgomery County, formerly all white liberal Jews and Catholics) is now majority black and Hispanic. My sole sibling who remains in the D.C. area has moved out to a suburb which used to be considered the back of beyond, and paid many hundreds of thousands for a house about the size of my modest one in the Dallas suburbs.
Even Virginia, which used to be far Whiter and more rural, has exploded in population, with those District workers with families raising property values sky-high and entirely taking over what used to be smaller, tight-knit local communities.
Almost no one ever leaves D.C.; while I would never return, I’ve gone to the “dark side” (initially “conservative” repuke and now alt-right) while the majority there are philosophically liberal and parrot all the standard memes about root causes of poverty, while using their education and salaries to insulate their families from the reality of black and Hispanic dysfunction. The government and its minions continues to grow and devour more and more of the economy and the self-proclaimed “elite” graduates of our over-priced liberal colleges.
@anonymous: “Go to Africa sometime.”
Fuck you, too.
Interesting fact about DC: there is no white working class. There are professionals and then immigrants (lots of east Africans) and blacks and Hispanics working in low-wage jobs or in municipal services, but you won’t find a white working class person in DC, except for maybe a few contractors and construction workers, and the latter often commute from WV or somewhere else and work in DC during the week. Compare DC with NY or Boston or Baltimore, and it’s very different. This means there are no “dive” bars and no decent sports bars around Nats stadium. The crowd at a Nats game and at for instance a Red Sox game are very different (I think CR wrote about this before, about Yankee fans).
and the entire rest of the country is just “flyover”, with little besides empty space and (even more) primitive people.
That sounds awesome.
Notice all the people leaving NY and NJ? You ruined your own states and now you want to destroy new places with your communist poison. FUCK YOU, stay there, you made your bed, now lie in it!
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