Children today spend fewer hours in the company of adults than they used to:
Until the Great Depression, the majority of American adolescents didn’t even graduate from high school. Once kids hit their teen years, they did a variety of things: farmed, helped run the home, earned a regular wage. Before the banning of child labor, they worked in factories and textile mills and mines. All were different roads to adulthood; many were undesirable, if not outright Dickensian. But these disparate paths did arguably have one virtue in common: They placed adolescent children alongside adults. They were not sequestered as they matured. Now teens live in a biosphere of their own. In their recent book Escaping the Endless Adolescence, psychologists Joseph and Claudia Worrell Allen note that teenagers today spend just 16 hours per week interacting with adults and 60 with their cohort. One century ago, it was almost exactly the reverse.
Christopher Lasch wrote on this in The Culture of Narcissism:
The “transfer of functions,” as it is known in the antiseptic jargon of the social sciences – in reality, the deterioration of child care – has been at work for a long time, and many of its consequences appear to be irreversible. The first step in the process, already taken in some societies in the late eighteenth century, was the segregation of children from the adult world, party as a deliberate policy, partly as the unavoidable result of the withdrawal of many work processes from the home. As the industrial system monopolized production, work became less and less visible to the child. Fathers could no longer bring their work home or teach children the skills that went into it. At a later stage in this alienation of labor, management’s monopolization of technical skills, followed at an even later stage by the socialization of childrearing techniques, left parents with little but love to transmit to their offspring; and love without discipline is not enough to assure the generational continuity on which every culture depends. Instead of guiding the child, the older generation now struggles to “keep up with the kids,” to master their incomprehensible jargon, and even to imitate their dress and manners in the hope of preserving a youthful appearance and outlook.
On fathers, in his book Iron John, Robert Bly expounded on the tension bubbling into the father-son relationship due to the father’s coming home from work to bring his family the parts of his personality that were a residual of the long, distant work day. In other words, children, and sons in particular, saw a discontinuity between the provision of the father and his discipline. The workplace got his productivity and input; the homestead got his unwinding. Bly’s phrase was “temperament without teaching”.
More Lasch:
These changes…have made it more difficult for children to form strong psychological connections with their parents. The invasion of the family by industry, the mass media, and the agencies of socialized parenthood has subtly altered the quality of the parent-child connection….According to another observer, the “immature, narcissistic” American mother “is so barren of spontaneous manifestation of maternal feelings” that she redoubles her dependence on outside advice. “She studies vigilantly all the new methods of upbringing and reads treatises about physical and mental hygiene.” She acts not on her own feelings or judgment but on the “picture of what a good mother should be.” [ed: does this predict the rise of mommy blogs?]
In Cameron Crowe’s Almost Famous, Frances McDormand’s character says “adolescence is a marketing tool“. The people who sell popular culture have segmented the market. Previous to the rock and roll era, music and other cultural touchpoints were all cut from relatively similar cloths. No TV and fewer TV channels meant everyone was listening to the same thing. Certainly kids liked different music than their elders, but there was never enough of a difference for wholly developed and widespread personalities to develop around these music styles.
Teens and adults are very different in a lot of ways, but marketers combined these maturity differences to consumption. This horizontal marketing strategy diversifies the consumer base, and the beauty of it is that it pits the different segments against each other. It is its own ready-made consumer base, and these two compartments of people with now completely disjointed daily functions have developed needs that lie on two different planes rather than one. Whereas a marketer previously fought a one-man war against the consumer’s pocketbook, by carving out an adolescent niche adolescents team up with the marketers to divorce parents and elders from their money. Under the guise of kids having special needs due to their stage in life – either in terms of the need for government services or styles of clothes and music and different uses of leisure time – an overall larger sum of money is spent by people seeking happiness, leisure, and identity.
Lasch’s point was that something like the concept of adolescence as a stand-alone arose from an overreach of progressivism. “Progress” must drill down and differentiate and seek to improve. Social workers wanted to “do it for the kids”; this was all as part of an effort to sap the family of its importance. Since children are assets of all of society, according to them, it stood to reason that the government and their agencies had a vested interest in making sure they were provided for. This led to a different taxonomy, and taxonomies are labels. And marketers are all about labels.
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‘sup Chuckypoops….
You are talking about the atomization of society…
You boi Advocatus Diaboli has written many articles on this….
…also not mentioned…
back in the day a “generation” was 25 years or so-I’d say that there is more fragmentation…
you would be able to relate to someone who grew up on a different coast because they watched the same TV and movies….
now with more entertainment options it’s a crap shoot…
I might be able to talk to an oldster about Led Zepplin and Hendrix, I might be able to talk to a younger guy about Nintendo, Atari 2600 and TurboGraffx 16….
I imagine if I met an alter righty in real life the conversation would be, “HBD,uh, do you also beleive in pherenology? Ghosts?”
…also…
FWIW….
I saw a metal band called The Sword-coulda sworn it was a Black Sabbath cover band, a really good cover band playing the “lost album” but a cover band nonetheless by a bunch of skinny hipsters….
I’ve read that the drive for universal high school really picked up during the Depression, as a way of reducing the labor pool, by taking young men (14-18) out of the labor force so that men with families would have a better shot at the fewer jobs still available.
If the current economic unpleasantness persists, I think we’ll see nearly-universal college, just to get the 18-22-year-olds out of the labor force. Also, in my very liberal surroundings, I’m seeing lots more stay-at-home moms, as they’ve figured out that working in a crappy job for just enough to pay for day care isn’t really worth it. Most of the working (married) mothers I know are working for at least $50k and/or all the kids are teenagers.
>to get the 18-22-year-olds out of the labor force.
They already are out of the labor force, at least to a very large degree.
Observation where I work is that the typical age for a craft worker (Electrician, pipefitter, etc.) is in the 40′s, while the engineering staff is either in their late twenties/early thirties or late fifties/early sixties
Another instance where the cultural Marxists and marketers have a common goal – pit kids against parents.
Liberalism makes no sense to people who’ve ever had to be accountable…keeping people in a state of arrested development for as long as possible is necessary to its survival.
Hugo Schwyzer is the perfect example. He lived with the awareness of a baby until middle-age – just stimulus and response. His consciousness now is that of a child who thinks a lifetime supply of comforting Blue Pills can make everything Fair and Just. What’s hilarious is that almost ALL of us went through this phase – but it was called “late childhood” for those of us who were less fortunate and had to take responsibility and accountability from a young age. And he’s looking at it like it’s a big Eureka moment, simply because he didn’t even have to developmentally get that far until he was 37.
White moms from two-employee couples are most likely to assuage their guilt about neglecting their maternal duties by treating their kids as The Prize and acting compliant.
As for NAMs…with Obama as the great exception, what happens after a generation of kids whose “parents” dumped them with Grandmother become parents themselves? THEIR parents have no experience raising children so the Grandmother trick won’t work anymore. Just hope you have some white relatives to set you straight, I guess, or else MOAR GOVERRMENT…
BTW, I’ve been thinking about Lena Dunham’s bf, the not-singer from “fun.,” and frankly, that guy is a genius because she is an awesome pivot. After they break up, LOTS of 8s will want to be with him to say they have One Meat Whistle of Separation from LD.
OT:
Reddit AMA with a rape counselor who talks about raped women getting orgasms.
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/193e3x/iama_sexual_assault_therapist_discussing_when/
Let’s just say that the amount of cognitive dissonance isn’t small.
Raped women do at times have an orgasm. This has been known for many years. And, I agree if she does not want sex, it is still rape even with an orgasm.
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As an elderly parent who raised several children I finally realized that in our modern society, we are raising kids to be kids, not adults. Because they spend most of their time with other kids. So, they look to other kids to know how to behave. Other kids are their role models.
Kids who spend most of their time with adults, including but not limited to, many home schooled kids, are growing up learning to be adults because adults are their role models.
This is why we plan on homeschooling our kids and don’t have TV.
stonerwithaboner makes less sense with each passing day.
hahahaha…..
do not jump the shark old man
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